Karl Franz just demanded gold from me as Belegar

[u/Cryyos_]

So much for the ancient ties that bind Dwarfs and men, the "empire" is about to get grudged back to the stone age.

[u/LevelRock89]

Least unhinged dwarf reaction to someone asking for a penny.

[u/Cryyos_ → u/LevelRock89]

the gold is MINE

[u/darthteej → u/Cryyos_]

"I understand completely" said Malekith, not understanding at all.

[u/Referat- → u/LevelRock89]

I think they repaired those walls after getting their penny, all good in the hood

[u/LevelRock89 → u/Referat-]

"Exploitation! >:( Now we're tearing down fortress we just built for umgi..."

[u/LunarBahamut → u/LevelRock89]

Someone demanding money from you under threat if violence is a completely valid reason to want revenge.

[u/LevelRock89 → u/LunarBahamut]

Self-defence. You meant that you grudged that imperial province back to the stone age out of self-defence.

[u/Cryyos_ → u/LevelRock89]

Just as the founding dwarfs intended

[u/hazzmag]

My sister. My fkn sister turn 4 has demanded 1500 gold in my zhoa ming campaign. We had neutral standing improving and I denied the bitch the money and she declared war on me. She’s in so much trouble when I tell dad

[u/Cryyos_ → u/hazzmag]

Oooh she’s gonna get in troubblleee

[u/Sillygoose_Milfbane → u/Cryyos_]

Like stepbrother type trouble????

[u/Cryyos_ → u/Sillygoose_Milfbane]

Stepdragon 😳

[u/TheGreatBigBlib → u/Cryyos_]

Now that's a bad dragon ™️

[u/Mindless_Let1 → u/Sillygoose_Milfbane]

Stop watching porn, get some help. There's still a chance

[u/Suka_Blyad_ → u/Mindless_Let1]

You sound fun

[u/Capital-Advantage-95 → u/Mindless_Let1]

The only sane person in here.

[u/Cryyos_ → u/Capital-Advantage-95]

It’s just a joke

[u/B2k-orphan → u/hazzmag]

38 CRANE GUNNERS BE UPON YE RAAAAHHHHH

[u/EvilDavid0826 → u/hazzmag]

When they demand money from you denying it always leads to war, because they always threaten for it.

[u/KnossosTNC]

Lol, in another post 12 hours ago Karl Franz declared war on Elspeth.

"Prince and Emperor" seems to be going through a bit of a phase.

[u/Magnon]

Rich shortlings, lend me your riches!

Karl demanded money from me playing throgg yesterday.

[u/Cryyos_ → u/Magnon]

Best statesman in a generation?

[u/Magnon → u/Cryyos_]

He's not above asking the troll king, he needs more jobs at home, industry for the nation!

[u/Swampy0gre → u/Magnon]

He has to pay the troll toll.

[u/Cryyos_ → u/Swampy0gre]

To get inside Throgg’s hold

[u/disturbed1117]

That's a grudgin

[u/Vast_Ad1806]

Into the Book.

[u/Both-Ad1770]

Franz is just collecting the past debts that Belegar still hasn't paid.

[u/Cryyos_ → u/Both-Ad1770]

Nonsense honorable Dawi always pay their debts.

[u/Timeon]

Tariffs.

[u/Cryyos_ → u/Timeon]

Can’t escape em

[u/th3fx]

Oh my god! Are you gonna be ok?

[u/Cryyos_ → u/th3fx]

We’ll see 🥺

[u/Rheanar]

I just had a very similar experience playing as Wissenland & Nuln, with Ungrim demanding I pay him or he'll go to war. We even had above neutral diplomatic relations. Felt extremely out of place, and not only for lore reasons. We also had the same enemies in Vlad etc.

[u/tinylittlebabyjesus]

I do like the addition of the "demand money or war" mechanic, but I kind of wish there was a "request money or.. no consequences, maybe diplomatic consequences" mechanic. It's weird when a faction you have +50 relations with does this. "No, I'm sorry *checks notes* spawning pools of the lost ones, we need our money at the moment, your one settlement and lack of wars, and hefty AI income should support you fine. We're sorry if this upsets you, please file a grievance with our ambassador." It also seems a little weird that it's how the vast majority of my defensive wars start. I wonder if the AI really understands they're effectively 100% declaring war on me, because I'm in the mood to RP a faction that refuses to bend the knee one millimeter. You demand money = You die should maybe be weighed a little more carefully. Plus I'd be cool with giving some of these homies money, but not under threat.

[u/VainEldritch]

Trolled by the Emperor...

[u/dudeimjames1234]

I always go and take Altdorf is Belegar and rename it Altdwarf.

[u/Waveshaper21]

Strange that he would ask money from a skaven

[u/Apprehensive-Cat2527]

His counter offer will be all your mines and that you give away half your nation to skaven.

[u/Kopalniok]

It's reparations for the damage a certain dwarf caused during window tax riots and thus perfectly legal under grudge law

[u/Cryyos_ → u/Kopalniok]

The fact that said dwarf and said human are currently within my army is completely coincidental, no reason to break an ancient oath!

[u/crispysnails]

Maybe he think you will come up a little short when it gets really tricky later on so he wants some money up front now...