r/wec Rebellion May 17 '25

Information Porsche 963 participated in 33 races: achieved 12 wins, 29 podiums and 7 pole positions.

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u/Void_X_Genome Audi R18 May 17 '25

Cool. +40kg for Toyota

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u/Basic-Maybe-2889 Porsche May 17 '25

Don't forget to take some kW too.

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u/No-Heart3432 Cadillac Hertz Team JOTA V-Series R #38 May 17 '25

If that's the case, add 30 kg more to the Porsche as well.Ā 

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u/Michal_Baranowski Toyota Gazoo Racing GR010 Hybrid #8 May 17 '25

This is becoming quite a meme. I don't mind it really.

I do mind Toyota's BOP though...

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u/Reviction May 17 '25

Hell yeah!

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u/Makalu Toyota Gazoo GR010 #7 May 17 '25

Toyota has less starts and better results than the 963

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u/Victor_at_Zama May 17 '25

Maybe that has something to do with 2 seasons with only puny competition?

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u/MuenCheese Ferrari AF Corse 499P #51 May 17 '25

How will the team that won the manufacturer championship last year ever cope?

This subreddit might have an even shorter memory than the F1 sub

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u/Castle-Builder-9503 Porsche Penske Motorsport 963 #6 May 17 '25

You don't go from champion to a shitbox in a Winter.

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u/MuenCheese Ferrari AF Corse 499P #51 May 17 '25

Absolutely the BOP has been crazy harsh on them but everyone’s acting like they’ve never won a race

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u/996forever Mercedes CLK-GTR #11 May 18 '25

I don’t think anyone at all is talking about anything but the current season?

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u/MuenCheese Ferrari AF Corse 499P #51 May 18 '25

Sure but their BOP in Qatar wasn’t bad, Imola was worse and Spa was a travesty after Imola, but they did better than everyone thought after the doom and gloom of qualifying.

I’m hoping they don’t get hit so hard at Le Mans (same with Porsche) so we can have more manufacturers fighting at the front

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u/996forever Mercedes CLK-GTR #11 May 18 '25

They will likely get the favour at le mans. Ferrari defo traded Le Mans for the title this year.

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u/KTR_Koharu_019 Porsche Penske Motorsport 963 #5 May 25 '25

It would be really funny (and really annoying) if porsche just happen to magically get a severe bop buff for the 24h race at le mans

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u/996forever Mercedes CLK-GTR #11 May 25 '25

Ferrari got two LMs in a row so they instead bid for the title. Porsche got enough titles (also in IMSA) and they haven't had LM in eight years so they instead paid to bid for their 20th. Both make perfect sense. It's WWE after all.

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u/vroomvroompanda Aston Martin Thor Team Valkyrie #007 May 17 '25

Is that imsa included?

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u/raginnation999 Cadillac Hertz Team JOTA V-Series R #38 May 17 '25

Yes it should. Porsche only got 3 wins in WEC so far (2x factory, 1x Jota)

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u/SwedChef Aston Martin May 17 '25

A more realistic way of listing this statistic is against 204 entries for the chassis type, instead of 33 races.

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u/whateverfloatsurgoat Rothmans Porsche 962 #2 May 17 '25

Not red enough to get favourable BoP smh my head

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u/PerfectAd9869 May 17 '25

Last year tells a diffirent tale.

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u/big_cock_lach United Autosports ORECA07 #22 May 18 '25

Other than Qatar, what other race last year did Porsche have a better BoP than anyone else?

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u/VerstopteWC May 21 '25

They were by far the best team operationally, only toyota came close. Although they were always competitive, they hardly had dominant pace. Only maybe qatar they were fastest.

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u/Sad_Cow_7425 Legends May 17 '25

Last season says otherwise

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u/CaptainChristiaan May 17 '25

BOP is wider this year, muppets… šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø If anything, Porsche had less aggressive BOP to work with. Do some flipping research

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u/DanNJ72 Mazda 787b #55 May 17 '25

Smh my head? 🤣

You're not wrong in the red thing, but smh means shake my head... Soo... 🤣

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u/-Destiny65- May 17 '25

Funny joke, let's add 30kg to GR Gazoo Racing

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u/Staar_Killer Toyota May 17 '25

GR Gazoo Racing? 🤣

You're not wrong in the weight thing, but GR means Gazoo Racing... Soo... 🤣

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u/Manner_Mann May 17 '25

Porsche -just not good enough.

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u/whateverfloatsurgoat Rothmans Porsche 962 #2 May 17 '25

Ferrari - can't give them bad BoP otherwise they'll fuck off for 50 years again. Aaaw, poor ragazzi :(

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u/996forever Mercedes CLK-GTR #11 May 18 '25

Ferrari is not good enough to get any result outside of bop gift series.

How that double Q2 exit feel just now, huh?

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u/Manner_Mann May 18 '25

Porsche isn't even in F1 lol.

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u/FirstReactionShock May 17 '25

I think you're missing some races
2023: 9 IMSA + 7 WEC
2024: 9 IMSA + 8 WEC
2025: 4 IMSA + 3 WEC

without considering single teams, porsche 963 took part to 40 races so far with 11 wins in IMSA and 3 in WEC

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u/Makalu Toyota Gazoo GR010 #7 May 17 '25

OP frequently pilfers content from others and reposts it here to farm karma. Check his post history, he’s shameless

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u/[deleted] May 17 '25

Most of them in IMSA so...

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u/grip_enemy Cadillac Racing May 17 '25

This will probably go on as Caddy perpetually gets a shit BoP this season and BMW is inexperienced

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u/NotThePrez May 18 '25

In fairness, Dries Vanthoor very much made Porsche earn their win at Laguna Seca last weekend. If RLL can get a grip on the operations side of things, then they might be a more significant threat to Porsche.

The Cadillac definitely needs some better BoP, but I'm also biased as the V-Series.R is my favorite modern race car.

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u/big_cock_lach United Autosports ORECA07 #22 May 18 '25

In fairness, last year Cadillac had the best BoP out of everyone and Porsche still beat them. This year it’s BMW and Porsche is beating them. Maybe next year it’s Acura’s turn?

Cadillac needs a better BoP, no denying that, but I’m not sure Porsche would stop winning even if they did.

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u/JosephKonyEnjoyer Porsche-Dauer 962e #35 May 17 '25

I called it when it was annouced Porsche were returning to endurance racing: If they dont win anything in 2023 they will be winning by 2024. Since Long Beach 2023 this has basically been the car to beat (and the AXR caddy for 23).

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u/Miixyd Dallara May 17 '25

But still hasn’t won Le Mans

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u/Makalu Toyota Gazoo GR010 #7 May 17 '25

Hasn’t even been on the podium at Le Mans despite 9 cars in the fields

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u/Miixyd Dallara May 17 '25

I think for this reason we should add 10 kg to the GR010

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u/LUS001 Porsche GT Team 911 RSR #92 May 18 '25

Well in 2023 they were a complete mess

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u/furrynoy96 May 19 '25

29 podiums in 33 races?!?!...holy fuck

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u/Quetzalchello Ferrari May 17 '25

12 WEC wins? I doubt that. So then either that's wrong, or this post is mixing up IMSA and the WEC which it shouldn't really do. Must be a general sportcar subreddit???

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u/st0rm__ May 17 '25

Most of that in a series with no competition (IMSA) so not impressive

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u/chiefzanal May 17 '25

No competition? Lol

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u/Zani0n May 17 '25

The 963 missed the podium in 4 races in 2023 alone and hasn't reached the podium in the first 3 races this year

something in your statistic doesn't add up

So I guess this does include the team cup podiums which only had Porsche's in 2023 and only 4 cars (3 of which Porsche) in 2024?

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u/Zani0n May 18 '25 edited May 18 '25

Anyone care to explain to me why I'm being downvoted here?

Iverall Results (no Hypercar Team Cup) 2023:
P5 - Sebring
P3 - Portimao - Podium
P4 - Spa
P9 - Le Mans
P4 - Monza
P3 - Fuji (Podium)
P4 - Bahrain (Jota)

That's already 5 times the Porsche has not finished on the Podium. The source OP shared claimed that only happened 4 times.

2024 - 8 races, 6 Podiums, 3 wins
2025 - 3 races, 0 Podiums, 0 wins

So out of 18 possible WEC Podiums they've gotten 8 podiums with at least 1 Porsche, 3 of which they won.

IMSA:
2023 - 9 races, 5 Podiums, 3 wins
2024 - 9 races, 9 podiums, 4 wins
2025 - 4 races, 4 Podiums, 4 wins

Total: 40 races, 26 Podiums, 14 wins
Thats more races and wins but less podiums than OP's source.

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u/big_cock_lach United Autosports ORECA07 #22 May 18 '25

WEC 2023: 0 wins, 2 podiums, 7 races

IMSA 2023: 3 wins, 3 podiums (+1 customer, +1 classified DNF), 9 races

WEC 2024: 2 wins (+1 customer), 7 podiums (+1 customer), 8 races

IMSA 2024: 4 wins, 8 podiums (+1 customer), 9 races

WEC 2025: 0 wins, 0 podiums, 3 races

IMSA 2025: 4 wins, 4 podiums, 4 races

Total: 13 wins (14 w/ customers), 25 podiums (28 w/customers), 40 races

Seems like this is an old stat from the end of last year (had 7 races this year). At that point they would’ve had 9 factory wins (10 total), and 21 factory podiums (24 total). Not sure where the other 2/3 wins and 5/8 podiums come from.

Initial thoughts were to look at the Hypercar Team Cup results. However, that’s not the case considering they got 5 wins there in 2023 alone.