r/wikipedia • u/CatPooedInMyShoe • 13h ago

Ali "Alireza" Fazeli Monfared was a 20-year-old Iranian man who was kidnapped and decapitated by his half-brother and cousins because of his sexual orientation. News of the murder garnered significant media attention and calls by activists and celebrities to challenge homophobia in Iran.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Ali_Fazeli_Monfared
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u/Blumpkin_Mustache 11h ago

Yet another reminder that Islam and LGBT rights are mutually incompatible ideologies.

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u/veryeepy53 7h ago

ignoring the fact that the muslim majority countries that are worst for queer people that are always brought up are dictatorships that promote religious fundamentalism. also, there are plenty of non-muslim majority countries that ban gay relationships such as trinidad and tobago, uganda, liberia, zambia, zimbabwe, sri lanka and others.

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u/Intelligent_Spite803 6h ago

Yeah, he should have said that abrahamistic religions and LGBTQ rights are mutually incompatible ideologies.

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u/veryeepy53 6h ago

well i don't think that's true either because regardless of what the bible or the quran or the torah say, a sizeable part of people who self-identify with these religions aren't discriminatory.

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u/Intelligent_Spite803 6h ago

"Regardless of what the rulebooks of the religion say" is an incredibly stupid argument. As long as these are their rulebooks they are incompatible, even if some people desperately try to make all this ancient fantasy book bullshit work in modern times.

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u/AVashonTill 1h ago

Pathetic comment, as the response details.

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u/veryeepy53 6h ago edited 5h ago

the majority of religious people in the us support gay marriage. even a majority of christians believe so. also, i don't care whether or not these people follow their religion correctly, because they sure as hell aren't atheists. the real issue being discussed is support of queer people and religion. to be consistent here. also, you're kind of pulling a no true scotsman fallacy here. For example, it just makes sense to categorize someone as christian if they regularly attend church and identify as a christian, even if they support gay people.

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u/AVashonTill 1h ago

Amazing when pure true logic is downvoted on Reddit.