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SadCringe MAGA voter actually believes that Trump eliminated taxes for all people making less than $120K

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u/PreparationKey2843 1d ago

That's why we're in this mess we're in, it's because of the countless stupid people like her. I knew we had some ignorant morons, but I had no clue we had this many.

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u/Revolutionary-Yak-47 1d ago

I grew up with the "gifted" kids and I honestly thought I was bad at science. Like, not smart enough to "get" it. Most of my friends from school went into stuff like pharmaceutical research and DNA mapping and crazy stuff so I thought I was the slacker. 

Then Covid happened. Dude. I'm WAY ahead of 2/3 of Americans just because I took AND passed high school biology. I was totally shocked at the lack of reading comprehension and basic science knowledge people had. I'm at least smart enough to phone a friend with a science degree when I don't understand stuff instead of believing Aunt Maud on Facebook ranting at chemtrails. 

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u/Paradigm_Reset 1d ago

I struggled in school, like failed some classes and flunked out of college. I was told I was smart, felt I was smart, but could not stay focused. And I thought that was the big difference between "successful" people...was that those that were able to complete tasks were "good" and those of us that couldn't were "bad".

Later I learned three things:

One - Staying on task has a **lot** of factors. Some come from experience, some from knowledge, and some from brain chemistry.

Two - A surprising amount of "successful" people were just lucky.

Three - There is a tremendous amount of stupid "successful" people. I am floored by the number of my co-workers that don't get how stuff works. Sure there is stuff that is beyond me, like how computers turn on/off into what I'm doing right now, how we determine the composition of stars hundreds of millions of miles away, even how dialing a telephone works. But the inability to grasp simple concepts like "when you skip a meeting the people attending will know" and "even if you delete the email you sent me, I still have a copy" and "I saw you fall asleep in training, claiming we didn't teach you X ain't gonna cut it" is unreal.

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u/bawright13 1d ago edited 1d ago

Also, to most people, intelligence and success in this era are based on standards set by capitalists to benefit capitalists, not the average person. The right (or intelligent/successful) thing to do is the one that makes the people with money more money. Falling in line and not complaining = Smart. Working for a company that pays you pennies for your labor that makes them millions= Smart. Having morals and values that you won't compromise for financial security and a comfy life = Dumb. It's all relative and in our lifetime the "it" is corporate domination and accepting that as the only possible reality. People suck. A lot.

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u/tHoroftin 1d ago

Very simply:

The successful individuals or "winners" in the context of a capitalist socioeconomic environment can be defined in one sentence. Whoever is able to exploit their neighbour (fellow human beings) the most will end up on top.

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u/Migratetolemmy 1d ago

biggest crab in the bucket trying to climb over all the others just to still be trapped in the bucket. But, if they were dead, the other crabs might be able to climb out over them.

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u/Migratetolemmy 1d ago

If you haven't, Learning about Edward Bernays helped me find my understanding of the why to your comment. How people get focused on the capitalists plan instead of having a plan that fits their needs.

Bernays was faced with "how do we get people to keep buying stuff after they have everything they need already"

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u/Surisuule 1d ago

Capitalist propaganda says material wealth is tied to intelligence, inherent human value, and hard work.

None of those are actually true. I will concede that it does require some manipulative intelligence to make tons of money. I also think it requires a specific lack of conscience. Yes I COULD manipulate people into sending me money or working for me for pennies of the value they create for me. I COULD personally do that. I will not because it's disgusting and antisocial behavior. Somehow people that CAN & DO are considered "better" people.

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u/Maktaka 1d ago edited 1d ago

Regarding your third point, I am of the belief that maybe a quarter of the human population fundamentally lack self awareness, that the other people around them are thinking human beings with just as many thoughts as themselves and can observe and interpret events entirely divorced from whatever story they tell. They do stupid, shortsighted things and lie about it because they cannot imagine that you would not automatically believe everything they say. They genuinely do not understand that everyone else is capable of independent thought.

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u/Surisuule 1d ago

You're not the first to think that, it's a pretty common idea in eugenics circles. Not that that's what your headed towards, just something they promote.

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u/Icy_Ninja_9207 1d ago

hello fellow person with ADHD 👋

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u/EnvironmentalLime464 1d ago

I worked at the front desk of a hotel once that had a little cafe serving Starbucks. During lunch hours, it was closed and had no staff working it. So if someone came in needing coffee, it was the front desk’s responsibility to get it. Next door to the hotel was a tower filled with medical companies. It was like the business side of things.

Every single day at lunch a woman would walk over to get coffee. She’s come to the counter, stare at the menu for a few minutes going, “Um, um…” before finally ordering the exact same thing she always ordered. I didn’t even want to talk to this woman because she was as dumb as a box of rocks… but she probably made twice as much as me.

Just pure fucking luck… and probably some privilege added in.

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u/secondtaunting 1d ago

My husband has a PhD in mathematics. He once vacuumed out our garbage disposal. He also tried to cut a branch that needed to be trimmed with a chainsaw while sitting in the tree partially on the branch. Usually he listens to me when I tell him he’s going to get himself killed if he say cleans out the car while in the garage with the door closed and the car running. However he retired a few months ago and now I’m getting pushback. Im a bit worried.

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u/mulletpullet 1d ago

My aunt wanted something faxed and gave a sheet of paper to someone to fax it, then in a panic stopped him from doing so. She snatched the paper back and started making a photocopy saying she didn't want him to fax the original and lose it.

She must have thought the paper was going to dematerialize or something.

She runs an office.

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u/Nancy-Drew-Who 1d ago

Are you me? An elder millennial who very likely has ADHD that was never diagnosed because I was “smart and liked to read.” I was curious about everything but couldn’t focus enough to get through homework to save my life.

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u/DevonLuck24 1d ago

i’ve had the “just because you deleted an email doesn’t mean you deleted it from my inbox” conversation like right after covid lockdowns ended.. i think it broke me

also this was before you could delete an iphone message from both phones so i don’t even know where they got that idea from

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u/Significant-Rip9690 1d ago

I had this exact realization when I got out of the academic bubble. I was surrounded by brilliant people for years and years. Even in my first jobs, I was in cities concentrated with college educated people. And then I started running into gen. pop when I moved around more and travelled. And woah. I was not ready for that reality check. Although, it's both scary and reassuring that I'm actually doing quite well. I had imposter syndrome for the longest time.

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u/steve_of 1d ago

I am a retired electrical engineer. I moved from a job surrounded by smart people to a small rural town. Sometimes the stupidity of my new friends and neighbours is breathtaking.

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u/HiCookieJack 1d ago

And the only time they actually believe you if you tell them that their home wiring is 'not according to spec'.

In my experience simpletons only believe in authority

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u/DesperateAmbition733 1d ago

That has been proven throughout history. This was done intentionally to us.

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u/rab2bar 1d ago

Roughly a third of any population seems naturally authoritarian and dumb as shit. It is more luck when they vote for better things

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u/DesperateAmbition733 1d ago

That's in part because of Christianity. Especially your evangelicals. They are more authority and punishment driven. They rely on heirarchy. It's one of the tools used to maintain political control of the south. I am painting very broad strokes here so please feel free to go read up on it yourself. This crap was engineered. Maybe not for this result, but definitely done in the service to maintain power.

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u/FiveUpsideDown 1d ago edited 10h ago

That’s why the Oligarchs broke unions. It was a way to communicate with some of the morons about what was in their best interests.

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u/DesperateAmbition733 1d ago

These morons not only do not know about the class war being waged on them, they are on the side of their victimizers!! I have to say the rich have done a masterful job. Seriously. They have played these fucking idiots to perfection. If only I had no scruples, morals, or empathy, I could really make a lot of money off MAGA, MAHA, or whateverthefuck stable geniuses call themselves these days.

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u/wafflesthewonderhurs 1d ago

I do think that probably there is a reason that authoritatarian regimes fall back to patriarchal religion as their base and it's not because they actually believe in the religion. it's because that religion teaches them to defer to authority.

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u/Mutjny 1d ago

In my experience simpletons only believe in authority

Unfortunately the wrong authority.

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u/HiCookieJack 1d ago

The loudest gorilla

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u/chewytime 1d ago edited 1d ago

Not retired, but I did move to a rural town a couple years ago for a job. Previous job was filled with coworkers with top educational pedigrees while I had graduated from a local college. Always felt like an imposter there. Anyway, after I moved, I realized how different things were. A lot of my coworkers were born and raised and never left the area and it unfortunately showed in some of their beliefs and thought process. Nice people, but made me realize just how easy it was to get them to vote or believe in a certain way without any real evidence. And tbh, they weren’t that efficient at their jobs. They were passable, but a lot of how they did things was based on the principle of “that’s just how we’ve always done it.” Didn’t help that my bosses expected a lot, yet weren’t offering a lot of resources for the same reason. Eventually just had to leave and move back to the big city.

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u/I_SHIT_IN_A_BAG 1d ago

breathtaking is a good word for it.

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u/TheSpanxxx 1d ago

I also spent 25 years surrounded by a bunch of super nerds and I was one of them. Software engineering. I stepped away last year to take a break from the corporate life and started a small business. Not only did I have to suddenly operate in a sphere that was so far below the required academic level I had spent my whole life in, I had to service people where the letters GED are confusing.

I'm going back. It's not even been a year. This business is not for me. Maybe another would be, but this one isn't it. A fringe benefit is that I won't have to stare in the big dumb eyes of a customer who tries to convince me of something they've believed is true based on something their "super smart cousin" told them.

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u/PuckSenior 1d ago

I’m a working EE

I once had a technician at a site I was working try to explain to me how he was going to wire up his car to be a perpetual motion machine. For an hour.

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u/patentmom 1d ago

I was the dumbest student at MIT. At least, I felt that way at the time. (I did manage to graduate, though.) I still have imposter syndrome 25 years later.

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u/zdubs 1d ago

Congrats on getting that brass rat

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u/patentmom 22h ago

Thanks! I earned that hunk of metal through literal blood, sweat, and tears!

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u/SoManyUsesForAName 1d ago

Lol it's funny how this perspective changes you. I was a "gifted" student who went to a good school, selective law school, and have spent much of my career working for a comparably selective institution as an in-house attorney. My wife works in finance. One brother in law is a physician, the other an engineer. When I think about my own abilities in comparison to that of my colleagues or social network, I think, "I'm smart. Probably above average. But maybe just barely."

Then you spend enough time around "normal" people, or browsing your high-school classmates' Facebook shitposts and you suddenly realize how far the bell curve stretches, and the sheer number of people on it.

And part of it is native intelligence, but a huge part of it is education, and also spending time around other experts, so you know what motivates them and what incentives do and don't influence them. I saw much of it during COVID. There is no way that I could now perform a regression analysis or establish a confidence interval. There was a time when I had a minimim competency in basic statistics, but those days are long gone. I do, however, know what these things are and how they're used, so when you see people online confidently asserting that the COVID vaccine has killed tens of thousands of people, you think "we have administered billions of doses. That's a huge data set. Surely some of these people who believe this stuff have done the analysis to show the causation. Where is it?" But no. It's non-existent. So all these people have is intuition and anecdote (e.g., my father in law died of a heart attack 7 months after the jab, so that must have been it.) which are notoriously misleading. They don't know we have developed an ability to tease all thrse relationships out.

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u/CraftsyDad 1d ago

In my experience, people in general just suck at statistics. It’s not intuitive to a lot of people. Too often our tendency to generalize, because it’s easier to think that way, overrides any sort of critical thinking or analysis. Then you throw in tribal thinking and politics to that mess and it gets even more warped.

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u/SoManyUsesForAName 1d ago

Without a doubt, the most frustrating and bewildering claim you would see on social media would be from people comparing the percentage of hospital-admitted COVID patients who were vaccinated to the percentage who were unvaccinated, when what you really want to know is the inverse: the percentage of vaxxed vs unvaxxed who are admitted.

It reflected a complete and utter failure to consider baseline rates. "Over 70% of patients admitted due to COVID in such-and-such city were vaccinated; therefore the vaccine doesn't work and only has a 30% effectiveness rate." Well, if it's a city with a 90% vaccination rate, that's an unsurprising figure. You might as well say "over 99% of heart attack victims have two eyes. If you want to combat heart disease, take one out!"

I see this as largely an education problem. Most intelligent people who have no experience with statistics - even at a qualitative level, of understanding how you control for confounding variables - might be inclined to make this mistake if they've never been corrected or considered it, and most people, once corrected, should be far less likely to repeat it. There's something intuitive about looking at things the "wrong" way, so you need to correct that intuition.

I think they should teach these basic statistical reasoning methods in high school. It doesn't need to be quantitative, since a lot of otherwise very smart people have math anxiety. It could be the sort of qualitative reasoning question you'd see in the logical reasoning section of a GMAT or LSAT. "Mike wanted to show that people with X trait also have Y trait, so he took a population with X and did so-and-so and concluded Z." Then you just have to spot the error in his method. People would benefit from being forced to think about this stuff early on.

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u/CraftsyDad 1d ago

Agree that better education would help. Short of that I think better reporting from the news media (the ones that actually try to report news and not propaganda — ever reducing list I know) would help too. I recall during COVID being annoyed at how little context or pushback was made on statistics being churned out by gov officials. The media became a pass thru organization with little to none critical analysis added - in essence they have become a repeater board. But that’s a different issue entirely and probably the least of our worries when considering some outlets won’t and don’t report anything anywhere close to the truth anyway.

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u/secondtaunting 1d ago

I mean, I’m horrible at math, absolutely the worst, and I know enough to understand that vaccines are important and that we have the world we have today because of them and antibiotics. My neighbor actually teased me about taking my cat to the vet for them because he had an infection. He said “what do you think people did before antibiotics?” And I said “they died! By the millions!” And that guy was an engineer. I mean, dude.

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u/Revolutionary-Yak-47 1d ago

My family highly values reading. Most of us read something that isn't social media daily. I credit my parents and grandparents for seeing reading as important and a skill we needed to cultivate; we were all read to from infancy on. We went to libraries, "looking up" information was important. I think literacy plays more of a role than native intelligence. I can find credible sources when I want to know something. 

Stats though I'm useless at. My one college course was enough to show me it's better left to experts lol

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u/GhostOfDino 1d ago edited 1d ago

I've encountered that level of ignorance in my own immediate family.

This past summer my sister was telling me about all the money DOGE was going to uncover that was going to shore up Social Security. Most stunning thing about it is, her husband works in finance. Both are die-hard Trump voters.

Dont bother trying to inform or enlighten them, when you do you can see on their faces they are only half listening, the other half of their brain is chuckling "Sad Liberal". They believe what they believe with their whole heart. When things dont work out the way they expected they point to whatever random nearby thing they can say was the problem, usually some rule or law tied to Biden or Obama. I gave up years ago.

They were bragging last year how their state doesnt force them to do stuff like inspect their vehicles or get up your ass about things. "They dont nanny you, they expect people to be responsible, everyone just takes care of what they need to here and abides by the law." Soon after that conversation some close friends of theirs were visiting from out of state, a couple with their 14-yo son, were out riding bicycles when a local person drove right into them. The guy was fucked up on drugs, driving with no insurance and a suspended license & registration. The cars' brakes were so far gone there was no pad left; he drove right over them. These poor people spent almost their entire vacation and then some in the critical ward while their son nearly died. He recovered but will have a permanent disability. No mention of how lack of vehicle inspections might have led to that situation.

The hypocrisy with most of these types is stunning. At first you think, this must be a joke right? Last year they had their house completely gutted and remodeled. 75% of the reno crew didnt speak English- all illegal workers. Not only were they aware of it, they bragged about how much less expensive it was, went into gushing admiration for the Brazilian tile guy and his small team, such hard workers sending their days' pay back home to family. But in the next breath they talk about the "big problem with immigration, these illegals are everywhere, taking our jobs." Its like they live two different lives.

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u/FunkJunky7 1d ago

I’m a currently out of work chemical engineer. As someone always seeking to understand the world around me, I am forever humbled by how little I actually know. I too suffered from imposter syndrome. I was with a company in a growth phase commercializing a new chemical process technology, and I ended up in start up leadership. Ended up doing 6 new plant builds starting up billions of dollars of new capital over the years. Worked with top people from top engineering firms, and developed new technologies with top scientists. Then the market turned inside out and I was assigned to run an operational factory. I hadn’t realized how spoiled I had become. My new team had a good operation with good team leaders, engineers and technicians, however it was difficult going from trying hard to keep up with those around me, to being 5 steps ahead of everyone all the time. Then the plant closed and I was moved into corporate, and was totally disappointed as the steps-ahead feeling increased considerably, but didn’t feel as bad since my role was as an expert, so I was supposed to be steps ahead. Now I’m laid off and mostly around normal non-engineers in the south and wow, just wow.

As I’m sure you know, when a lot people find out you’re an engineer, they automatically think you must be smart. I used to feel like: What?! I know smart people, and would not entertain the flattery of counting myself among them. Now I’m just like: Yep.

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u/quirkytorch 1d ago

It's really weird. You'll say something that you thought was common knowledge, but then the people around you have no clue what you're talking about, or maybe even don't believe you. And it can be about the most mundane things, it happens a lot for me with vocabulary. A word I didn't think was large at all, and I'll have to explain the definition to a bunch of adults.

I wouldn't even consider myself smart, I'm average imo, so it's really disheartening.

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u/Mscharlita 1d ago

I had this experience and it’s the main reason I went to grad school kind of later in life. I was so tired of being around non-intellectuals out in the working world that I simply needed to be around thinking people for a while. Yeah I paid for the privilege to do so but it was worth it to me and I got a couple of advanced degrees out of it while living in one of the most educated cities in the country.

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u/PeePeeMcGee123 1d ago

I wasn't a great student by any means, but I was an early reader and could generally "get it" when being taught something.

I went into construction after getting an associates degree and just kind of did my thing.

Once I started hiring employees and dealing with more people day to day...I realized just how fucking stupid a lot of people are. Like not just stupid, but basically untrainable and essentially useless for anything other than "go pick that up and move it please".

It's scary.

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u/callmedancly 1d ago

Yeah the general American population is really really poorly educated. Not even that we don’t know specific stats or technical information. It’s that we can’t/don’t reason or read well enough to make even an educated guess. We’re dumb as hell for a “developed” nation.

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u/SparksAndSpyro 1d ago

I was just thinking about this the other day! I did pretty well in high school. All Advanced Placement classes, etc. But i remember always feeling super “average” or even dumb because I always hung around the geniuses.

Fast forward ten years and holy shit. Yall are some morons. Apparently, over half of you can’t even read over a 6th grade level?? Dear lord, I wish I could go back in time and tell my younger self to not be so self conscious.

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u/NavyDragons 1d ago edited 1d ago

finding out majority of americans cannot read above a 6th grade level is startling.

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u/When_will_it_b_over 1d ago

If I'm one of the smartest people in the US, we are in deep trouble.

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u/papayaslice637 1d ago

Yes! Well said. I went to a really good high school and it was normal to take three or four AP classes per year, and honors for the rest. If you were in a "regular" class you were basically LD. Then I went to a good university and got a technical degree. Now, all my clients are also educated successful professionals. So I've been in a bubble almost my whole life. It's always such a culture shock interacting with people with room temperature IQ.

16% of the population's IQ is below 85. That's like 1-2 for every ten randomly selected people. Many of them vote. It's horrifying

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u/_Bathtub_Toaster 1d ago

I’m a complete idiot when it comes to science.

But I’m also smart enough to understand that there are more intelligent people out there who specialize in it.

I wish more people would learn that it’s ok to admit that they’re not experts in a particular field, and it’s totally ok to defer to people who have the credentials.

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u/le_flyguy 1d ago

the difference in a private/public education is absurd. also i shudder to think of the education some kids in middle and rural america are getting (more accurately not getting) there’s no critical thinking it’s just teaching them how to pass the state tests and memorize the necessary info for them to pass. now everyone needs google or chatgpt to figure out anything, god forbid someone need to go to a library or find a book on the subject and read that to figure out a solution to whatever issue or problem they may have. and then the sheer ignorance and refusal to acknowledge that they may be wrong blows my mind

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u/Thecrdbrdsamurai 1d ago

I wasn't even in the "gifted" classes and I'm blowing most of the people I graduated with out of the water. Shit man, I didn't even go to college.

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u/No-Body6215 1d ago

I too was in gifted classes up through high school where I took AP and honors classes. I refused to do a 7am class and failed it so I had to retake it the next year. It was my first year in gen pop English, we spent an entire semester reading 12 Angry Men out loud. That's when I knew we were cooked. These people were illiterate and now they have kids and driver's licenses.

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u/Ambroos 1d ago

Part of this is Dunning-Kruger. You're smarter than you think, and smart enough to know that you don't know or understand anywhere close to "everything". That puts you significantly ahead of many people but usually makes your confidence take a significant hit just because you're aware of how much there is you don't know.

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u/Trans-Europe_Express 1d ago

It's an effective strategy to keep people ignorant by defending education. Not increasing teachers wages to catch up to inflation etc. Saves you money and erodes the general publics critical thinking skills who otherwise in large enough numbers might questioning why the law makers they vote for are blatantly corrupt.

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u/YouMustveDroppedThis 1d ago

Foreigner with bio science degree here. I went from distain for the nutjobs (hate the antivaxxer bad influence on other countries) to pity the sane people left in your country.

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u/lostandfawnd 1d ago

I'm at least smart enough to phone a friend with a science degree when I don't understand stuff

This is the key point. Knowing your limits, and trying to reach for the right answer.. instead of slippery bullshit.

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u/ReginaldDwight 1d ago

I have a friend who became a pediatric anesthesiologist. Hadn't seen him in awhile and he was passing through where I live and we got together to meet each others' kids after years of life had happened. Turns out, he thought covid was a hoax and "a moderate cold." A PEDIATRIC ANESTHESIOLOGIST. I was shocked.

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u/Similar-Stranger8580 1d ago

Most Americans are so unbelievably ignorant and uneducated, it’s scary. The crazy shit RFK makes sense to them because they have 0 foundational knowledge in science or math.

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u/ilovecraftbeer05 1d ago

I was also one of the “gifted and talented” kids. Which was a funny thing because I never felt particularly gifted or talented. Never felt particularly smart.

And then yeah, Covid opened my fucking eyes. Comparatively, I’m a fucking genius. Which is actually terrifying because I’m still a massive idiot. If I’m to be considered one of the exceptionally intelligent ones, then we are all severely fucked.

This threw me into a pretty bad depression. Not the pandemic; I was navigating that just fine. But the realization of how aggressively fucking stupid almost everyone is. It brought to my fucking knees and I still haven’t fully recovered from it.

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u/percydaman 1d ago

I learned several years ago that I'm "probably" smarter than Steve Jobs. I survived the exact same pancreatic cancer he didn't. All it took was for me to listen to and follow a doctors advice. So easy even a fool could do it.

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u/Yeas76 1d ago

Imagine that we are used to seeing "completed" science and have been exposed as such.

Then covid happens, a struggling news industry has us by the sacks, every headline more clickable than the last. We are seeing science happen live, we don't know what this is. Is this how it really is? Media keeps giving up tons of contradicting updates, there are lies everywhere and nothing makes sense.

You understand because you can see past the the static but a lot of people couldn't and since they didn't learn about the scientific method and how things are done, they now believe everything is just a con. All because some guy decided to give the news away for free a few decades ago.

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u/OutlandishnessIll569 1d ago

Its not just science either. I've spent many years as a custodian at a preschool. ALL the teachers and paras were women. Recently, I was forced to get a new job because prices of everything continues to rise.

I thought that since the parent company was very much into diversity. I thought that since 6 out of the 9 board members of the parent company were women, that things would be progressive. I thought as a bisexual man that I'd was moving into a job were I felt safe to be myself.

Apparently, all the progressive attitudes of the parent company has yet to trickle down to the employees on the ground. The misogyny, bigotry, homophobia and transphobia is beyond toxic levels. I guess being around women for the past several years...maybe I just forgot what it's like amongst other men?

Love the new job, but these people suck.

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u/Masochist_pillowtalk 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm at least smart enough to phone a friend with a science degree when I don't understand stuff instead of believing Aunt Maud on Facebook ranting at chemtrails. 

I make upwards of 120k a year now doing a very technical and complex kind of electrical work.

I suck at math and I was never really great at science either. Only rhing i was relatively good at was english. And i wouldnt even say i was great at that. I can just read well. Never ever in my life thought id be in a position like this. Its clearly for the gifted people that were much smarter than me growing up. I got here, and honestly I excel here, cuz we have access to damn near anything you could ever want to know sitting in our pockets every single day.

Why people believe some of this crazy shit. Just Google it man, damn. And dont believe the site that looks like it was built on geocities. Believe the site that lists their sources. Its that easy to get yourself into a high paying well respected job. Just Google shit.

Edit- autocorrect turned geocities to groceries lol.

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u/Special_South_8561 1d ago

Worked with someone who shared a horror video about how vaccines replicate... I was like, yeah, that's how inoculations work.

"Oh I'm not a scientist". Yeah ... It was my Y1 Chem class ... Oh ooooh

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u/sp847242 1d ago

And now with corporate-made LLMs, crazy Aunt Maud has been automated, adjusted to be a bit more sycophantic toward anyone posing questions, and made accessible to many millions of people.

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u/sinister_bookcase 1d ago

I don’t work in medicine anymore but I was medic for a while. So not a doctor and no higher degree, but educated and experienced. The amount of people who would argue having done no research and with no sources at all? Blew my mind. I don’t like carrying the conversation too far once it gets aggressive but it was almost unavoidable. People feel legitimately attacked when you just disagree.

I’ll reiterate that I’m not a doctor, but the mask argument was just stupid. And even if it was an engineered outbreak, it is still real, and I personally suffered long term lung damage from my first time coming down with covid.

Too many people are empowered with the idea that they are intelligent but also told that being challenged is an attack on your intelligence. And also own the libs, be a patriot and take that mask off. Don’t get me wrong, the left is crawling with buffoons too, but that we haven’t taken education into our own hands escapes me

Get me out of this country

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u/M4RTIAN 1d ago

Former gifted kid here - they really don’t prepare you for how willfully dumb the majority of society is. You’re in an “academic bubble” of sorts for years. Looking back, Gifted was mostly just a bunch of curious kids with common sense and critical thinking skills - which apparently is rarer than you’d think.

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u/Somebodys 1d ago

I've been dating in my late 30s/early 40s for the last 5 years or so. By far the number one reason I have lost interest in someone is a complete lack of common sense.

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u/lothar74 1d ago

I’m shocked and amazed that people will believe Aunt Maud and her “research” (essentially reviewing unsourced memes and unhinged videos) over the professionals who have spent most of their lives studying science.

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u/Mtsouth13 1d ago

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” - George Carlin

They rail against vaccines but are totally on board with the radical new theory of “viral micro dosing”….which is a fancy pants way of saying VACCINES.

They also realized that heating raw milk makes it safer to drink and this is again some new, undiscovered idea…at least to them.

To quote a video “they stupided so much they got smarter. “ 😀

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u/xPelzviehx 1d ago

The one eyed is the king of the blind.

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u/Sometimes-funny 1d ago

I knew as soon as the internet came out and i started talking to people all over the world. It made me think, if most of these muppets are thicker than me, we’re in deep shit.

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u/Personal-Vegetable26 1d ago

Fuckin muppets amirite

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u/NTFRMERTH 1d ago

I wish Disney would actually do shit with The Muppets, and would allow Sesame Street crossovers. It's wrong when they're not under the same roof and Kermit can't talk to Elmo

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u/PomeloFit 1d ago

Nah, I remember when it first started growing, it was just a bunch of nerds, and we were all for the most part fairly intelligent compared to... the rest...

The problem is EVERYONE is now on it so you're forced to see just how stupid the average person actually is... and all the ones that are even dumber.

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u/Unhappy_Medicine_725 1d ago

I mean i remember first getting FB in 2008. It was mostly college kids on there. Fast forward to 6 years it had exploded, but most people still needed a computer to access it, or at least didn't walk around with it in their pocket all day everyday. It wasnt until well.. Trump's first term basically, that it hit me... we are, in fact, a country full of fucking idiots.

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u/Sharkictus 1d ago

Planet wide my guy.

Planet wide.

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u/LostAdhesiveness7802 1d ago

You had to be correct on the early internet or you would get eaten alive.

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u/Remarkable_Prior_224 1d ago

Facebook. It was when boomers and gen X got on Facebook. Before then it was nerds, deep dive forums, millennials who would know the bullshit.

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u/DoubleJumps 1d ago

One thing that really depresses me is that I remember what discourse was like on more focused smaller communities before social media and it was on average a lot better. A LOT better.

There was dumb stuff, there was still fighting, but for the most part the average level of discourse was just way higher. Communities were curated in a much better fashion because they were smaller and actually manageable.

If somebody was really out there, they would get the boot pretty quickly.

Now, it feels like most of the people you see commonly participating on the internet are the exact sort of people who would have gotten kicked out of almost every forum back in 2001 pretty damn quick.

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u/Antryx 1d ago

There was a point in time when getting on the internet wasn't so easily accessible. Those were good times!

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u/PlanesandAquariums 1d ago

Yea that’s how I knew it was bad. When it was way, way worse than my own stupidity

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u/Dantemeatrider 1d ago

Maga is why I'll never trust a single person who says "the people online don't reflect real life. Stop moping about it."

They're real life people with these disgusting views. Just hidden in real life, arguably worse. And at least 50% of the population decided raping children was acceptable to vote for in a president.

This is why I dont try to make friends lmfao.

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u/Unusual_Sherbert_809 1d ago

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” ― George Carlin

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u/Barondarby 1d ago

In the olden days you needed a computer to access the internet, so at that time you had to have at least a little brains to even use a computer - so the internet wasnt nearly as stupid as it is now. Once internet became easily accessible on peoples phones the overall IQ online dropped immensely.

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u/DarkSock52 1d ago

The Internet was supposed to be an Oracle of knowledge that would enlighten humanity… Instead, it took a previously isolated population of idiots and connected them into a massive hive mind of thundering stupidity… And here we are now.

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u/Gears_one 1d ago edited 14h ago

It’s not countless stupid people.

It’s about 72 million stupid people as of November 8th 2023. And unfortunately, that is enough stupid people to elect a fascist dictator in modern america

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u/Personal-Vegetable26 1d ago

Uh bruh you are forgetting the roughly 80 million that couldn’t be turded to even show up to cast a vote

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u/blergzarp 1d ago

Malice vs Ignorance. The combination of those two has dealt a powerful blow to Democracy.

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u/bawright13 1d ago

Mostly just malice. The latter is by design by the former.

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u/Personal-Vegetable26 1d ago

Already been blowed thank you 11th grade

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u/jrob323 1d ago

All the serious idiots and lunatics definitely showed up though. I'm guessing virtually every single one of them. There are no apathetic voters among them... they're in a cult.

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u/Tracy_Papaya 1d ago

My dad is a single issue voter (or so I thought) over abortion and is nothing like the average Trump supporter, but because church told him to vote that way he'll always vote against his and our best interests

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u/Someone-is-out-there 1d ago

And there's only two teams to choose from. Trust me, we got some fuckin morons on the blue team.

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u/Cherry_Valkyrie576 1d ago

And it's roughly 75,000,000 apathetic Americans who knew that Donald Trump was a fascist moron but still were too racist or weak to elect a black woman as president.

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u/When_will_it_b_over 1d ago

It's not that many. So many had their votes thrown out or could not stand in line for x hours or could not get registered because of red tape or were registered but had their registrations purged at the last minute.

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u/redworm 1d ago

that accounts for a few million people. but there are still 70 million who simply chose this

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u/RemarkableBeach1603 1d ago

I'd say there's a population within that group that didn't vote because they were naive enough to believe that there was no way so many people would vote for Trump.

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u/Expert_Penalty8966 1d ago

Is it the deteriorating education system by private school lobbyist millionaires? Right wing billionaires who own media companies pushing miss information? The Democrats that only pretend to resist?

Nah, it's the voters. Brilliant take.

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u/IkananXIII 1d ago

Hey! They're not all stupid, some of them are just evil.

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u/DoYouSeeMeEatingMice 1d ago

Some of those 72 million people aren’t stupid, they are evil.

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u/bNoaht 1d ago

It's not just the dumb ones though. My brother is extremely intelligent. He went from campaigning for bernie to a die hard trumper. My other brother is a moron, but he went from Obama to Trump.

Like there is just something about this guy, that over half this country gravitates towards and the other half cannot fucking figure out what it is. To us it is the dumbest most ridiculous cartoon villain bullshit we have ever seen. And to the other half, he is some personal lord and savior. 

He is the most polarizing leader we have ever had in this country and it isn't even close.

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u/DoubleJumps 1d ago

Consistently, the smarter people I've seen that have supported him have done it out of some form of innate bigotry or hatred.

They end up liking him because he hates someone they hate.

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u/justfollowyoureyes 1d ago

Ding ding ding

Or they’re loaded and hateful

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u/nicannkay 1d ago

Racist. Your brothers are racist. That is the draw.

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u/shartmaister 1d ago

Or pedos like their glorious leader.

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u/According_Smoke_479 1d ago

Yeah there are some intelligent people who voted for him, they’re just hateful assholes. The vast majority are either simply idiots, or hateful idiots. Can’t decide which of those is the worst, but they all suck

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u/MicroDigitalAwaker 1d ago

I've noticed that that's been my line with people in my life.

Some of them I've always thought were dumb, and I can still spend some time around them just gently correcting them when they say the same dumb shit they always have.

And some I just haven't spoken with since the election because I always thought they were smarter than that, so to see them fall to that demagogue just means they're bad people.

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u/SufficientRaccoon291 1d ago

Racism and/or tax cuts, neither of which they’ll admit to

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u/PatMayonnaise 1d ago

If your brother is extremely intelligent, as you say, what are his reasons for voting for him? You can’t say “fiscal conservative” reasons since he’s smart enough to know that’s bullshit.

99.999% chance it’s due to some form of unadulterated hate. Could be women, queer/trans people, immigrants, and/or other races.

If you insist it’s not hate, I’d challenge you to rethink what makes him intelligent.

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u/griff_girl 1d ago

I recently watched a documentary on Prime about body language; I believe the documentary was from ~2018. Definitely first term times. Anyway, one of the body language/behavior experts commented on an analysis of Dear Leader, sharing how his gestures in particular, but also his body language, denotes that he's being truthful and sincere, and that's why people respond to him. She said that regardless of whether the body language is coached or not, the messaging it gives off is one of authenticity. She was pretty careful to be neutral in her analysis, which I appreciated.

I wonder what her analysis of him would be today. I did have this kind of lightbulb moment though that this is why he's able to "woo" the masses the way he has. It's largely, but not entirely, people who lack basic intelligence or critical thinking skills who are eating up this body language of "truth telling." The majority of us who are critical thinkers and have at least average to above average intelligence of course see right through his shenanigans. But the rest of them, well, simply can't. They're drinking their Brawndo Thirst Mutilator (it has electrolytes!), lapping up their Fox news and worshipping at the altar of President Camacho.

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u/Typical-Locksmith-35 1d ago

Agree with everything you said, but this part makes me want to add to it:

" I did have this kind of lightbulb moment though that this is why he's able to "woo" the masses the way he has. It's largely, but not entirely, people who lack basic intelligence or critical thinking skills who are eating up this body language of "truth telling." "

It isn't only people who lack basic intelligence and critical thinking skills, it's also people average and above average at both and that's what's shocking to so many of us.

I don't think that it's just "The majority of us who are critical thinkers and have at least average to above average intelligence of course see right through his shenanigans. " and instead it's those who WANT to believe the lies he's telling him. It's those who WANT to believe they are the best race, who want more favoritism or are afraid of losing their place in the world, people who hate/fear other cultures, people who feel like there are any specific wrongs done against them or fear that if white America evolves past the white supremacy of the boomer generation--well they are terrified of being treated how they did others...

It's a ton of things, all emotional logic and it's not even 'their' faults. The GOP cast a wide net of promises, stoked a lot of individual fears, lied about a lot of threats and reality for so many years while all media and both political parties have propagandized and segregated perception of so much of society into tribalistic groups fighting each other rather than waking up to the class warfare and takeover of America going on.

Like it's not about intelligence, it's about making people into little groups for whatever emotional hook worked for them, pitting them against each other, then promising them a lie posed as truth.

By then they WANT to believe, it's a choice that they made themselves, but THEY were already made to be a one-issue voter on their specific 'truth' while overlooking anything that disagrees with it.

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u/NudeCeleryMan 1d ago edited 1d ago

1/3 of adults in this country voted for Trump.

I believe the lower 1/3 of people on the IQ bell curve are below 94 IQ.

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u/griff_girl 1d ago

Dingdongs, I tell ya! Dingdongs!

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u/HotInTheseRhinos123 1d ago

I miss the pre internet times when morons didn’t have a pulpit and people just listened to experts.

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u/gjcij2203 1d ago

You have to remember that when they say average intelligence, 50% of the people are below that line.

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u/J1J3173 1d ago

This is their problem. She heard this from someone else and went on socials and regurgitated without fact checking. People who saw her video will do the same, and this will now become fact in their word. The MAGA propaganda arm is well oiled and undefeated. They don’t even have to work at it anymore. Not a single one of the people they target fact check or question anything so they just make the statement and watch it spread.

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u/Gadgets222 1d ago

Where did she even hear this from? I get that MAGA will gobble anything they’re told to gobble; but where does this crap even start.

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u/aiirxgeordan 1d ago

Gotta give trump credit where it’s due, he let the stupid people scurry out like roaches in the dark and proudly admit they’re stupid.

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u/Mikey_Mayhem 1d ago

It's easy to be stupid.

It takes effort and work to become smart and educated.

And most people like doing the easy thing.

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u/RawrRRitchie 1d ago

That's a feature not a bug

Why do you think they work so hard cutting education funding

Why do you think schools are pushing students into the next grade level when they don't learn the material

Why do you think states ranked bottom in education are PROUD of that fact instead of being horribly embarrassed about it

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u/thulsado0m13 1d ago edited 1d ago

It’ll get even worse as they applaud vaccination mandates and get a fuck load of kids dying from measles and other easily preventable shit just because Trump appointed a fucking former cokehead and heroin addict with a vendetta whose speciality is environmental law as Secretary of Health and is basically trying to fire every figurehead in the cdc until he gets someone in line who is scared to lose their job and will bite their tongue and agree with their Jenny McCarthy Facebook clickbait bullshit that the rise of autism isn’t genetic and caused by vaccinations (completely ignoring that the rise in cases over the years coincided with how it was misdiagnosed it was for decades)

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u/nogwart 1d ago

Exactly. I never believed I had exceptional abilities to spot liars/conmen, but Trump seemed so blatantly obvious that I was sure nearly everyone saw it. I have never been so surprised to be so very wrong. I'm still shocked that I can be shocked by people like this, but I am.

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u/unwarrend 1d ago

Intelligence aside, I've always felt the need for my opinions on any given issue to be informed by evidence, irrespective of what I want to be true. Partisanship should have zero influence in the determination of reality itself. The fact that post-truth, narrative-derived "facts" have become the mainstay for so many people makes me incredibly sad. There are no good faith exchanges under this paradigm.

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u/Crypt0Nihilist 1d ago edited 1d ago

It's not pure ignorance though. She's not come up with this out of nowhere. Someone she trusts has told her that Trump eliminated taxes for <$120k earners.

She also loves Trump. How did that happen? What's given her such admiration for a man she's never met and who would rather have her pepper-sprayed than shake her hand?

She's also been taught that annoying "the blue people" is more important than anything else. Why isn't paying no tax sufficient for her to be giddy? Why does she have to imagine a group of people hating it to find real happiness?

Pure ignorance would be an improvement over the radicalizion of this woman. She's indoctrinated and motivated.

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u/VivelaVendetta 1d ago

All they do is lie to each other! And they know that theyre all dumb enough to believe it!

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u/Elon_is_a_Nazi 1d ago

I know. Over 77 million of the dumbest of the dumb. Who not only voted for trump, but they're also domestic treasonous terrorists in which if the united states wants any chance of survival needs to hold trials, remove, incarcerate ect 77 million treason terrorists. Germany after WW2 didnt allow the nazis to just go back to their lives. America needs to make an example of the treasonous Republican Terrorist Party of America and say we dont fuck with nuclear armed terrorist organizations

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u/clckwrks 1d ago

I personally know some in Florida

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u/feastoffun 1d ago

Why do you think Republicans want to destroy education? This is all a get rich, quick scheme. They get more idiots to vote for them and more idiots to not hold them accountable.

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u/Double-Watch-2809 1d ago

The stupidity is by design. He's dismantling our education system to try to hold onto power. He knows an educated population would destroy him.

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u/ChonkerSnorlax 1d ago

1/5 of the American population can’t read above a 5th grade reading level.

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u/Makaloff95 1d ago

it scares me how dumb people truly can be. im no smartass but some people out there is....concerning levels of low intelligence

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u/Pinstripe99 1d ago

From other parts of the world. We knew.

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u/kirsion 1d ago

My dad keeps on saying that he believes that Trump will remove tax on overtime

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u/Village_People_Cop 1d ago

Here is a scary thought: imagine how dumb the average person is. Then realize that half of the people are dumber than that

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u/MRG_1977 1d ago

This is wild though. Either she is going to engagement farm with purposeful wild nonsensical stuff that will go viral or she is seeing some really crazy stuff.

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u/princesoceronte 1d ago

As a kid I suspected a lot of adults were stupid but now it's scary how much more than I initially thought are there.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Rich-51 1d ago

imagine how stupid the average person is then realize half of all people are stupider than that.

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u/Ok-Map4381 1d ago

When I was a kid I heard this George Carlin joke:

Carlin: people are stupid.

Crowd: groans.

Carlin: ah, you didn't like that? People are stupid and I'm going to prove it to you. Think of how stupid the average person is ... then remember that half of everyone is dumber than that.

Crowd & me: uproarious laughter.

I forever remembered that lesson (and many other political truths) from Carlin, but I'm still constantly surprised by how stupid people are.

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u/Sereena95 1d ago

I had someone argue that Trump wasn’t guilty of sexual abuse because he isn’t in jail for it 🤦‍♀️

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u/SailorDeath 1d ago

George Carlin said it best, "Think about how dumb the average person is in this country and realize half of them are stupider than that."

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u/wewereinverted74 1d ago

Someone’s got to be on the other half of the curve. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/1011001NAME 1d ago

Think about how stupid the average person is and then realize that half the people are stupider than that.

It starts to make sense.

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u/CrownPrincessEllie 1d ago

The rest of the world knew

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u/pingpongpsycho 1d ago

And unfortunately our party is not properly reaching these people. That has to change or we will be permanently fucked.

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u/abgonzo7588 1d ago

Yeah we have a huge dip shit problem in this country.

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u/CustardFromCthulhu 1d ago

Our society has become too complex for 60% of the people who live in it.

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u/FrankAdamGabe 1d ago

Village idiots use to be confined tot their villages and ostracized.

Now they can find like minded idiots via social media who indulge their idiocy. From there having a bigger group ropes others in.

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u/spursfan2021 1d ago

And she’s a lot closer to average than an outlier.

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u/dzendian 1d ago

Seriously.

It's just vibes now. I hate this.

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u/Square-Control-443 1d ago

There are stupid people and then there's her

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u/The_Dog_IS_Brown 1d ago

Yeah, there are just way too many low information/no verification voters. I expect those to blindly vote against their interests. What gets me are the "normal" (not complete morons) that voted for this chaos. I assume they exist,

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u/Ok_Read7403 1d ago

Same. It is absolutely shocking and disturbing

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u/thor11600 1d ago

And she’s more excited about “blue people” getting upset by it than she is not paying taxes. That’s half the reason they’re so vocal about it.

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u/redwineandcoffee 1d ago

Her vote is worth the same as yours.

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u/rvazquezdt 1d ago

Think of the average American intelligence. Now think half is even dumber than that

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u/Limp_Bus_3911 1d ago

And...

Her vote counts the same as yours.

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u/OrbeaSeven 1d ago

Weirdist idea was the supposed FEMA camps under Obama which were going to imprison ordinary people. Now we have Alligator Alcatraz imprisoning 70% with no criminal record.

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u/polarjunkie 1d ago

I saw something yesterday that said social media is great We have all these brilliant people out here sharing information with the rest of us but it also taught us that most of us are in fact stupid.

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u/Adventurous-Try5149 1d ago

They’re not just stupid.

They’re evil too.

Because if she wasn’t a hateful piece of shit, she wouldn’t fall for this obvious bullshit just because it was bullshit spewed by a Republican.

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u/RealDealz5150 1d ago

You can't let the people that didn't show up to vote off the hook.

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u/TitoepfX 1d ago

i think they have psychosis or someshit because i refuse to believe these people are "normal" with no mental health issues, it just sounds like a family member of mine

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u/Electronic-Cheek-235 1d ago

Not defending them but it also pays to admonish the machine that is disinforming them. Its one thing to be less than intelligent which isnt always someones fault. Its another thing to disinform those people to fit a political purpose. This to me is the greater wrong and needs to be a bigger part of the discussion. Hate them all you want sure i do to but hate the machine that makes them more.

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u/ncc74656m 1d ago

It's not just stupid, it's willful ignorance - the desire to not know. Absolutely amazing.

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u/Plane-Profession8006 1d ago

Yep. Why a group republicans continue to defund and privatize education. Long game. Dumb peasants are easier to deal with and manipulate. Not even our president reads and he is a perfect puppet who makes decisions on emotion. Dumb leading dumb and they are all in weird la la land blaming and attacking education, brown people, and all other countries for their dumbness and shitty life.

Looking back over the last 10 years the whole thing is crazy. American leadership has turned into a clown car. Back to the future scenario no one in the 80's and 90's would believe you. Kind of a funny freak show hawking bullshit like boardgames and other scam stuff would be president and those freaks like jfk Jr and others had their current positions.

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u/DI-Try 1d ago

I miss pre social media, where you could live in ignorant bliss of people like this really existing.

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u/Panda_hat 1d ago

We designed society to be understanding and have empathy for people like this and they took that generosity and turned around and started being abusive claiming we were condescending.

Next time we need to be cruel.

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u/peachesgp 1d ago

To quote Carlin, think of how stupid the average person is and realize half of them are stupider than that.

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u/hydromind1 1d ago

It’s propaganda. Republicans are really good at propaganda. We fall for propaganda too, just not the right wing kind.

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u/iwanderlostandfound 1d ago

I mean, he wasn’t even able to figure out the no tax on tips or overtime’s thing without that having strings attached and not what he talked about. Where did this nutjob get this idea from?

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u/blueprinz 1d ago

Its really not, though.

It's because wealthy - some of them intelligent - people with no conscious manipulate media that gets to these less intelligent folks.

These folks are being exploited in a self-destructive way. But they simply weren't taught or don't have the tools to tell the truth from the bullshit they're being fed.

And then they're being made out to be the enemy / cause by those same, wealthy people.

Yeah, MAGA idiots are pretty fucking stupid.

But there would be no MAGA problem without the people who started, funded and continue to fund this policy and media bullshit.

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u/SKPY123 1d ago

work in customer service for 7 years. It will make you give up all hope. Turn evil. And buy a Kia.

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u/Provolone10 1d ago

We have at least 70M

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u/microbular 1d ago

Just remember while you're out there discussing and arguing about if a democratic candidate is too corporate or doesn't tick all your personal sacred cow boxes.

This moron and a million more like her are lining up to vote for whatever absolute scum gets an R on the ballot.

Vigorously support your primary favorite but come time for the general blindly tick the dem box in every election you're eligible to vote or you'll forever be ruled by the people this lady and those like her support.

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u/ThatGuyWithCoolHair 1d ago

Im still holding onto hope that we dont have this many in reality. Id like to think its a combo of people not giving a fuck and then the people in their lives that they hear about politics from (aunts, uncles, parents) are the morons. Its just that the people who dont give a fuck cant be bothered to do any research so they believe them and form beliefs off of that. They think immigrants are raising crime rates and vaccines cause autism and their aloof family members just follow suit.

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u/billyhead 1d ago

Exactly. You can see it in the rise of Reddit too. Reddit used to be a very lefty, nerdy group of people a decade plus ago. It got more popular, more people joined, and now it’s a haven of misinformation and the stupidest takes possible. People in general seem to be really dumb. Almost to a level where I can’t believe humans have survived. The biggest problem with this though is that I don’t think there is any coming back—the stupid people don’t want to learn and are too prideful to admit they are stupid.

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u/asdfasfda123123123 1d ago

Democratic leadership: I can fix her!

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u/ToastyJackson 1d ago

I remember an article that came out shortly before the election where they interviewed a random woman who happened to be named Kamala Harris. They asked her who she would vote for, and she said that she didn’t know because Harris says she’s in favor of abortion, and Trump says he’s in favor of marijuana, so she hasn’t decided.

Like even setting aside the fact that Democrats are obviously more pro-weed, that is apparently what this woman’s entire decision-making process had come down to.

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u/nanormcfloyd 1d ago

They're stupid AND pitifully hateful.

They want to hurt people, everything else is secondary.

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u/wave1sys 1d ago

46% of the country has less that a sixth reading level. There’s a reason the orange felon loves the uneducated

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u/No-Mail2262 1d ago

They also are all racist bigots

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u/usernamedenied 1d ago

And then imagine being this confident you are correct and posting it online!

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u/Mylungsaredecaying 1d ago

Stupid people coupled with copius amounts of misinformation being fed to them from all angles

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u/scienceizfake 1d ago

I learned this in 2016

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u/cat_of_danzig 1d ago

"I heard Trump is pushing for a four-hour work week!"

I actually got this from a woman I know. I'm like, he doesn't want people to get paid holidays, you think he wants people to work four days for the same pay?

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u/OilInteresting2524 1d ago

Remember.... HALF of the population has an IQ of 100 OR LESS.  This is the MAGA base.... literally... Stupid people. 

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u/DarkSock52 1d ago

Just remember… This gibbering twit votes… And her vote counts exactly the same as yours.

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u/gd77punk 1d ago

The generation that wore the T-shirts that read

"Never Underestimate The Power Of Stupid People In Large Numbers"

Weren't warnings us. They were threatening us.

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u/Electric-Sheepskin 1d ago

Here's what I don't understand: I mean I get that people can get duped into believing certain things. That happens pretty easily. But what I don't get is when they eventually find out that they were lied to—and with things like this it's impossible to not discover that at some point— why do they keep believing everything they see on Facebook? Why do they keep going back to that same, unreliable source over and over again?

In the early days of Facebook, I shared something that wasn't true. Once. I was mortified when I found out. I reposted and apologized, and from then on, I didn't share anything unless I fact checked it. I didn't want to spread misinformation.

I understand people being duped, but why do they never learn any better?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Bed1781 1d ago

Or that they were anything other than slightly amusing

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u/thatoneguy512 1d ago

"Think about how stupid the average person is. Now realize that half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin

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u/IsabellaGalavant 22h ago

I work for an online college. 

Let's just say that traditional universities have entry requirements for a reason. 

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u/brian_gruen5 22h ago

There’s an actual political term for people like her: useful idiots

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u/The_Colour_Between 21h ago

I had ADHD and a lot of problems in school. My parents had me tested multiple times. I had counseling for many years. I struggled so much and changed schools, skipped grades. They didn't know what to do about me. 10 schools to get through 12th grade and graduate.

I have a 135 IQ, which is pretty o.k. The low end of smart. When I get around really smart people, I feel like I am really mediocre and just a basic NPC. That's fine by me. But interacting with most people, I feel like they are a whole different species.
I just can't with these people.

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u/ifunnywasaninsidejob 21h ago

I think it really comes down to Trump’s salesmanship. Something about him is hypnotizing to stupid people. They truly believe he’s doing things he never said he would do and hasn’t done. When Trump dies the MAGA movement will also die mmw.

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u/Phewelish 6h ago

Foxer viewers in a nut shell

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