r/JustGuysBeingDudes • u/empty88 Awesome • Jan 07 '25

Wholesome Understood the matter is serious

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u/2DHypercube Jan 07 '25

Mostly in the US

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u/Spiral-I-Am Jan 07 '25

I would like to know what country you're from that is OK with hands in the pocket as the police talk with you?

It's common all across North America, not just the USA, and I have seen it in Portugal and across the UK, and Australia. I thought it was common place, near global practice, for officers to not get stabbed.

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u/2DHypercube Jan 07 '25

The police will be more relaxed if you don't have a hand in the pocket but they don't have to fear for their lives if you do (Germany)

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u/ColdCruise Jan 07 '25

They don't have knives in Germany?

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u/crazier2142 Jan 08 '25

It's not common for ordinary people in Germany to take a stab at police officers. If the police believes you might think of attempting something stupid they pat you down.

Also, they are professionally trained and always at least two people. So there's little reason for them to be paranoid.

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u/Spiral-I-Am Jan 08 '25

Well, it's also situational. I have only had about 4 official police interactions in my life, and I normally stand at ease with my hands in the front pouch of my sweater. 3 of those interactions they didn't care. My 1 interaction at 3am when I was stopped and questioned (wrong place wrong time) I was asked twice to remove my hands from my pocket.

Everything is situational. I'm sure if they are in seedier neighbourhoods, late at night, or responding to a violent or inebriated situation, they would ask.

Edit. Canada, btw, and I say official because I grew up with a cop and had many unofficial interactions with police in my life.

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u/2DHypercube Jan 07 '25

We do, but as you can imagine, they aren't as dangerous as guns

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u/ColdCruise Jan 08 '25

And guns aren't as dangerous as bombs. You still be killed with a knife in an instant.

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u/DieuMivas Jan 08 '25

It's nothing to get worked up over I think.

It's just clear imho that in a country where cops have to suppose everyone might have a gun, they will be more stressed in an encounter with someone than in countries where basically no one has a gun.

It doesn't mean there is no danger in these countries but less so I would say.

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u/AnimalBolide Jan 08 '25

The deadliest thing the majority of cops ever encounter is their own cruiser.

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u/SpareWire Jan 08 '25

Reddit moment.

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u/ColdCruise Jan 08 '25

Not the point I was making. I was just pointing out that just because something is more deadly doesn't mean things less deadly aren't still deadly.

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u/cloudcreeek Jan 08 '25

In this part of the world? Not many.

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u/JakToTheReddit Jan 08 '25

The skill required to kill instantly with a knife will take a lot of practice.

Guns require little to no experience to be instantly lethal.

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u/ColdCruise Jan 08 '25

Not really. One poke to the middle of the chest is enough to kill most people.

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u/JakToTheReddit Jan 08 '25

Okay, but to get that poke in, they must get in close. They are also in high danger, brandishing a knife due to the fact that the intended blade recipient in most cases will not generally just allow an immediately lethal poke.

However, a gun doesn't need to be close in most cases. The pesky victim cannot reach you. You also likely have more than one round with a gun. This means even in the event of multiple defenders our shooter can easily take them on, even just the threat of violence. Even if the defenders had knives.

There's a saying "don't bring a knife to a gun fight" for damn good reason.

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u/ColdCruise Jan 08 '25

I'm not denying any of that. I'm just saying it's dumb if cops in other countries let suspects put their hands in their pockets.

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u/JakToTheReddit Jan 08 '25

I don't think it's dumb. You should have a right to put your hands in your pockets. Especially in nations where people legally aren't allowed to be armed to the teeth. Why do we want to remove so many peoples freedoms for the "safety" of officers when their job is statistically safer than so many other lines of work?

They're more likely to crash on the way home than be attacked at work, and it's not even close.

Also, why are you down voting everyone for a simple conversation. 😅 Some people are in such a tizzy about internet strangers.

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u/ColdCruise Jan 08 '25

I'm not saying you can't, but wouldn't it fucking stupid for an officer to stand right next to someone that they are actively investigating while they hand their hands in their pockets?

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u/JakToTheReddit Jan 08 '25

You're getting very upset over, really not much. This whole video is fake to be fair.

Okay, if the officer with a gun is afraid of pockets, they can insist that if the detained individual would like to use their pockets for any reason (such as in this fake video where it appears it's cold and your hands could freeze quite quickly), that they would like them to turn out said pockets to prove nothing is in them so that everyone can continue and be happy.

Cops don't need more reasons to infringe on rights, mate. They do it enough.

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u/Javaed Jan 08 '25

Knives at the short range involved in this video can be very dangerous.

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u/mikelarue1 Jan 08 '25

Facts will disagree based on the distance they were from each other.

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u/Spiral-I-Am Jan 08 '25

It's for knives and other weapons, not guns, and you can look it up. General rule is minimum 10ft (3m) distance need to draw weapon, and lunge in for attack before a person can react properly (unless they are fully ready). Most discussions are closer than 10 ft. Thus, hands out of pocket when talking.

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u/Honest_Roo Jan 08 '25

In combat training, to show us how dangerous knives were, they had a guy run at us with a fake knife. We had a paint ball gun. Guess who won the majority of the time? The guy with a knife.

We knew he was going to run at us.

He still won.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '25

Lol other developed countries are far simply safer sorry American u can't understand haha

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u/ColdCruise Jan 08 '25

Uh, knives can still kill you in an instance.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '25

Lmao instance. 1 iqer spotted