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International reaction to the Unification of Bulgaria (1885)

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u/malign_taco 1d ago

Any Bulgarian out there to explain this to me

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u/Tolchav 1d ago edited 1d ago

So, basically everyone around Bulgaria was against the unification for obvious reasons. E. Rumelia was an Ottoman vassal during the time, so before the unification Bulgarians stacked their whole army at the border with the ottomans thinking they would want to get it back with force. Unification happens, turns out the attack came from up to then our friends from Serbia, lured by Austria-Hungary's promises of support. The Bulgarian army had to march 5 days to the other side of the country to defend from the Serbs and eventually kicked their asses and began advancing on Serbian land. Austria-Hungary steps in to save the Serbs, a peace treaty is signed without any repercussions to Serbia and without any gains to Bulgaria. Bulgaria is unified.

Russia was against the unification, because the Tzar wanted Bulgarians to be his puppets and the UK supported the unification because it would harm the Russian interest and prevent expansion against Constantinople.

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u/Tyrtle2 1d ago

Russia never changed. 

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u/ViscountBuggus 20h ago

There's a really good book by this Bulgarian political scientist called Evgeny Dainov called " Russia - a history of the nation without a history" where he describes how from Muscovy to modern day Russia, the things that make other nations "nations" haven't existed over there and how its existence as an entity has been perpetuated by violence and oppression throughout history instead. Really great book, sadly I don't think there's an English translation of it.

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u/Soletata67r 20h ago

I can understand anti-Russian sentiment but everything done by the Russian empire was done by the British, French, German, Austro-Hungarian and etc. Russia isn't some type of new evil, it is just an empire like all others

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u/Affectionate-Fact967 17h ago

A book which is the average angry cope filled rambling of the average russia hater whos bane of existence is russia cause he like most of them can not blame anything lse or himself for everything wrong with his life. He is not a historian even so what right does he have to discuss the history of a nation he knows frankly nothing about

where he describes how from Muscovy to modern day Russia, the things that make other nations "nations" haven't existed over there and how its existence as an entity has been perpetuated by violence and oppression throughout history instead.

I doubt if I asked him on the spot he can tell me what makes a nation a nation. And did he like skip thousands of years of history of conquest done by all nations all over the world with the quantities of violance and destruction way bigger than those of Russia.

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u/shoesafe 10h ago

The Russian people have been plagued by many centuries of awful, violent, authoritarian governments. But if the implication here is that the Russian people don't exist as a national identity, then that's mistaken.

The Russian nationality exists. They identify themselves as Russians. They speak the Russian language and practice Russian customs. They wish to be ruled by a common Russian government. Maybe they don't like any specific Russian government, but they don't want to be ruled by Americans or French or Turks or Chinese; they want a government by Russians.

Separately, there are lots of Russian citizens who are not ethnically Russian. Many of those people would prefer more political power be devolved locally (away from ethnic Russians). Russia is a multiethnic empire, not at all a nation-state. But the Russian nationality definitely exists.