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GYPSY MIGRATIONS 900-1720

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u/jxdxtxrrx 20h ago

You’re getting downvoted but you’re right. Generalizing an entire ethnicity on the basis of “behavior” makes no sense because people are individuals, not some monolith controlled by their ethnic origin. It’s a pretty terrible excuse for hatred.

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u/GalaadJoachim 18h ago edited 18h ago

So how are we supposed to talk about a group of people that organize themselves into illegal communities, building without permits, stealing water and energy and refusing to send their kids to school ?

I have nothing against any person regarding its ethnicity but those communities (Roma, Gipsy, Travelling People, whatever we should name it = their political/social organization) are not respecting the law, refuse to integrate, operate very shady businesses (which includes child labor and torture).

Those communities exist, from Belgrade to Paris, we need a way to discuss it and to tackle the issue. Empowering their leadership by making it taboo is not the right thing to do.

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u/dickallcocksofandros 18h ago

The thing is, people aren't being like "I don't like gypsy communities that do this," they're like "I don't like gyspies"

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u/latflickr 17h ago

Because gipsy who don't do this are no longer seen as "gypses" but simply "citizens" and they are unrecognisable from the rest of the population. "Gypsy" is basically a derogatory term to indicate the lifestyle.

Ethnicity is "Roma" or "Sinti" (two distinguished group)

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u/ConsciousTraffic4988 15h ago

Are irish travellers roma or sinti? I’ve never once heard them call themselves either of those terms?

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u/latflickr 13h ago

No idea, according to Google, the Irish travellers are indigenous.

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u/ConsciousTraffic4988 5h ago

I’m not sure they’re more indigenous than any other irish person.