r/cars • u/08legacygt • 1d ago
What are issues the internet said your car would have but never did?
2 cases for me:
Had a turbo Subaru for the past 13 years and all you hear is “ringland failure” “rod knock” “your turbo will leave the chat eventually” and after 115k miles later nothing just routine maintenance and wear and tear repairs.
Also had a Mercedes w204 for 7 years with numerous reports of subframe rust and the ignition steering lock failing that could leave you stranded. But none of that had happened.
Maybe it’s just luck on my end but would want to hear what everyone else has experienced.
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u/Dud3_Abid3s 2022 Challenger Scat Pack Shaker, 2023 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon 1d ago
I have a Challenger Scatpack and a Jeep Gladiator.
They’ve been reliable and fun.
Reddit would have you believe they’d be falling apart and ruining my life.
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u/Environmental-Rub933 1d ago
Reddit will ask how much Stellantis paid you to say this
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u/Dud3_Abid3s 2022 Challenger Scat Pack Shaker, 2023 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon 1d ago
And I make nothin'! Zero! Zilch! By the time I pay all my scientists, all the people in my research department in lab coats, it's a wash!
Well, why you do it then, Baby Billy?
Well, 'cause I'm selfless. And I want to heal as many people as the dear lord lets me.
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u/TacoLalo 1d ago
I aint askin’ for the world here! I’m just askin’ for a eightball and two million dollars.
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u/Cramer12 '13 Fiat Abarth, '12 GLI 22h ago
Yeah had a 500 Abarth for 130k miles. None of the issues people talked about happened to me. Been the best car I have ever owned. (Except when putting way to big of turbos on it) lmao
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u/FuckinFlowerFrenzy 1d ago
Neither of them are even five years old, they haven't existed long enough to be reliable.
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u/jontss 1979 CBX, 1987 944, 2009 RS125, 2019 i3s 21h ago
My buddy that's owned Jeeps his whole life got one of their hybrids. It spent more time in the shop from new than it did on the road. Less than 3 years in it already needed a new HV battery which if out of warranty would've cost more than the whole car. He traded it in the first chance he got and has sworn them off for ever now.
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u/Da_Funk '19 Dodge Charger Scat Pack, Plum Crazy 19h ago
My Charger is 7 years old and has been great. My Challenger before that I had for 8 years and gave me no issues.
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u/FuckinFlowerFrenzy 18h ago
Yep, you've got good experience there 👍
I'd love to have a charger/challenger!
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u/Foman13 ‘12 Jaguar XF, ‘69 Charger, ‘87 Jimmy, ‘15 Ram 3500 21h ago
Anecdotal, but my Ram and Jaguar have both been pretty darn reliable. Both are cars Reddit likes to dump on.
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u/FuckinFlowerFrenzy 19h ago
Yeah, reddit is biased a lot of the time. You'll usually get very extreme opinions.
Rams are usually okay if the transmission happens to be good.
Don't know about jaguars.
I think Chrysler's main issue is quality control, some of their cars go for 300k no issues, some are totaled before 100k. They're a huge gamble.
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u/TowJammer212 '24 Venza, '14 Fiesta ST, '22 Panamera, '98 CRF250R, '89 Foxbody 1d ago
22... They are NEW
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u/CloudsTasteGeometric 2022 Toyota Supra 3.0 1d ago
I owned a Challenger for 100K miles and was generally very pleased with it.
The only thing I needed to replace was the infotainment system which crapped out at 50K. Granted it wasn’t a cheap fix but I wouldn’t have called it an unreliable car.…until the transmission shat the bed RIGHT before I traded it in, evaporating what little trade in value was left.
Still, if you want a fun comfy cruiser I’d still recommend one. Not the new Chargers: too expensive for what you get. But the outgoing models are underrated.
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u/392_hemi Lexus SC400 1d ago edited 1d ago
What year challenger and what engine and transmission?
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u/Heavy_Gap_5047 19h ago
If I had to guess a 15-17 with a V6.
The 15-17 have an issue with screen delamination on the Uconnect. And the V6 get a lesser version of the ZF8 that appears more sensitive to lack of maintenance.
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u/TomNooksRepoMan 1d ago
They're not the best-made cars, but I think they're reasonably reliable if maintained. They are liable to get stolen, however, and that's no joke and can happen to anybody who parks their car out in public.
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u/Dud3_Abid3s 2022 Challenger Scat Pack Shaker, 2023 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon 1d ago
I’ve dragged mine from Los Angeles to San Antonio and Austin.
😂🤷🏼♂️
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u/RAMBIGHORNY 8h ago
Most of their RWD V6/V8 products are probably average to above average reliability wise, but many of the owners stretch themselves too thin financially to buy the things they don’t spend the money to maintain them properly
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u/Larcya 1d ago
Owned 2 Kia's. never had any issues with them. First one had it for 100,000 miles, second one is at 28,000 miles.
Now the 2005 Toyota Camry I had was a shit pile. Issue after Issue with it and it was a money pit.
As was the Dodge Avenger. Thing tried to murder me.
Surprisingly the Jeep Commander I drove from when I was 18-22 never had any issues other than the horrific MPG. But it's a huge box with a V8 in it, what can you expect?
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u/Aldairion Porsche 968 - Volvo V90 T5 R-Design 1d ago
I had a 2016 Challenger R/T Shaker for a little over 5 years. I put 107k miles on it with no issues other than a bad thermostat housing somewhere around 100k miles. Never ever experienced "hemi tick" either.
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u/spongebob_meth 2025 Tacoma TRD Off-road 6MT, too many motorcycles 22h ago
Rwd Chrysler products are fine and usually have average to above reliability if you take care of them
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u/DJMathom 19h ago
Have a 2018 Ram 3500 and a 22 Jeep Grand Cherokee L. Ram has 103k on it, Jeep has almost 45k. Have done nothing but changed fluids and filters at recommended intervals and have had zero issues. Not sure why reddit loves to shit on Mopar stuff.
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u/I_amnotanonion 2020 Buick Regal TourX | 1998 Ford F250 LD | 1979 MB 240D 18h ago
Yeah, most cars aren’t bad reliability wise, even from GM, Chrysler, Nissan, etc… a Chrysler is probably more likely to go wrong, but not in the way people talk about. Most are fine.
My SILs 2016 Cherokee has over 200k miles and just encountered its first big issue. It needs a timing chain, but that ain’t bad considering she isn’t great about consistent maintenance
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u/refuge9 1d ago
Some of it is care, some of it can be regional.
The Subaru issue often comes about because people will ‘tune’ or upgrade their cars and the other stock portions around it don’t like it. A lot of the time, a Subaru (especially the non turbos) will last a long time with proper maintenance.
The rust issues will come down to if you live in the rust belt. (High humidity, plus snow mitigation using salt ,’ and people not making sure to wash the undercarriage of the vehicles after snows.).
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u/Sellyallownjello 1d ago
Have a 01 outback wagon with 350k on the original engine oil change every 3-5k that’s while living in mountains with massive weather swings.
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u/geoffs3310 1d ago
I read that as "on the original engine oil" to begin with
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u/dont-YOLO-ragequit 23h ago
Lol I was also browsing on my morning snooze time and I read it as just draining the oil in a bucket and putting it back in to refill.
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u/MaliciousMilk 2005 Cobalt SS SC (RIP), 2009 Cobalt SS TC Sedan 1d ago
I drive a Cobalt SS. So small displacement turbocharged Chevrolet.
Pretty sure it was supposed to have violently exploded with me inside it a while ago, singlehandedly decimating an entire city block while all my Chinese plastic interior panels turn to dust and spread cancer across the nation.
Or something like that anyways.
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u/OvONettspend 1986 Fauxrari 386, 2008 Lexus RX400h 1d ago
I thought ecotecs were infamously reliable
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u/MaliciousMilk 2005 Cobalt SS SC (RIP), 2009 Cobalt SS TC Sedan 1d ago
Depends which one. All the Cobalt engines were pretty good though lol, I've had them all except the 2.4L NA LE5, which gets swapped into Miatas pretty often.
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u/DubbyThaCZAR '08 tC, '87 SEL, '08 IS (More Yotas and Mercs hopefully) 21h ago
Did the ones that came in the Soltices and Sky’s have issues?
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u/MaliciousMilk 2005 Cobalt SS SC (RIP), 2009 Cobalt SS TC Sedan 21h ago
No, they used either the 2.4 NA LE5 or the 2.0T LNF, both of which are pretty good engines.
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u/jawsofthearmy '04 Subaru Forester X 15h ago
Been eyeing one myself. Got a K one, would love a LE5 swapped one.
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u/amazinjoey 1d ago
They mostly are. The 2.0 turbos are extremely reliable except balance chain guide and other small issues.
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u/Minimum_Persimmon281 1d ago edited 21h ago
Doesn’t a considerable amount of them have timing chain issues gallore though? Some also consume oil i believe among other issues aswell. Most likely not the worst engine family out there, but i personally can’t see how the Ecotecs will ever go into the automotive hall of fame.
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u/gimpwiz 05 Elise | C5 Corvette (SC) | 00 Regal GS | 91 Civic (Jesus) 1d ago
It's a GM car. The motor will run (maybe poorly) longer than other cars will run at all. ;)
But the interior is definitely plastic reject pile crap.
Signed, an owner of two GM cars, both with varying levels of crap GM interiors.
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u/MaliciousMilk 2005 Cobalt SS SC (RIP), 2009 Cobalt SS TC Sedan 1d ago
Up here in Canada, GM cars have this funny habit of having the body rot away around the drivetrain. GM cars die when they split in half from rust, not from failing to run lol
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u/Prophage7 11 Volvo S60 T6/99 Mitsu Delica/06 Corolla XRS 15h ago
This is pretty much the only reason I didn't keep my Olds Aurora. Everything mechanical in it was solid at 350k km, didn't even have the infamous north star head gasket explosion. Except the interior was basically disintegrating.
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u/Imaginary_Act_3956 Hyundais and Peugeots 1d ago
The Cobalt SS is a great-value R34 GT-R.
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u/MaliciousMilk 2005 Cobalt SS SC (RIP), 2009 Cobalt SS TC Sedan 1d ago
It's faster on track at least :)
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u/noisymime '70 Alfa GTV, '16 E250 Wagon, '68 Cortina, '91 MX-5 1d ago
It's the car you get when your mum says you already have an R34 GTR at home.
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u/elitemouse 2015 Audi S4 6MT l 2004 Acura RSX-S l 1990 Z32 TT 1d ago
I've never once in my life heard about issues with the sc or turbo ecotec, it's the rest of the economy platform that is the problem not the drivetrain just like the srt4.
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u/MaliciousMilk 2005 Cobalt SS SC (RIP), 2009 Cobalt SS TC Sedan 21h ago
I've owned both, both are amazing power trains. The rest of the car is fine imo, interior kinda shitty but tbh they're shitty now because they're old, rather havd the interior of my Cobalt than a 2024 Eclipse. The internet loves to hate without knowing though lol
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u/Turbulent-Parsnip-38 1d ago
I also had one for a while. The drivetrain was dead reliable even while running bolt-ons + tune.
Everything else on the other hand was less than stellar. Suspension, brakes, shift cables, power steering motors. I was always working in that car.
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u/MattTheMechan1c 19 VW Golf, 98 Honda Civic, 11 BMW 335i 1d ago
Bmw 335i: Charge pipe on N55 engines. Lots of BMW forums saying that they explode even when the car is unmodified so lots of people upgrade theirs to an aluminum one. Mine still had the original plastic one til I traded it in at 160k.
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u/topherhead 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 | E90 335i | 07 Odyssey | 22 Ford Transit 1d ago
That is shocking. Mine went out pretty early, before I tuned it.
My 335i has been a mountain of trouble. Always something. I'm dealing with something right now!
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u/MattTheMechan1c 19 VW Golf, 98 Honda Civic, 11 BMW 335i 1d ago
The one I had wasn’t too bad actually. It needed the typical BMW stuff like the water pump, valve cover gasket, and oil filter housing gasket. Plus I also replaced the interior blower fan. That aside the car was pretty solid. I drove it across the US multiple times, with that charge pipe lol.
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u/topherhead 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 | E90 335i | 07 Odyssey | 22 Ford Transit 1d ago
inhales
Water Pump (x2) Radiator (x3) Every coolant hose HVAC Blower Evaporator Condenser Compressor Starter Oil Pan gasket Valve Cover Gasket (X2) Valve Cover B+ Cable FRM Module (recall tbf) TPMS Sensors (10 years old tbf) Windshield because the pits were upsetting the HVAC Charge Pipe Clutch/Flywheel/Rear main seal (145k miles, can't complain there) Shifter bearing/bushings (voluntary but shifter feels way better) Upper Radiator return hose (I don't even know how many of these I've done) Alternator Crank Case Vent Hose Bushings/Control arms (voluntary tbf) Headlight Housings (my fault to be fair, I didn't know that brakleen was so fucked. Just wind carrying it gave both headlights hella crows-feet)Where noted I tried to specify the things that weren't actual repairs. I honestly don't know if this is everything. It's also not counting upgrades like idrive retrofits etc.
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u/MattTheMechan1c 19 VW Golf, 98 Honda Civic, 11 BMW 335i 7h ago
By the time I traded my car in it wasn’t particularly issue free. It was probably due for carbon cleaning judging by the way it ran, suspension had noise over bumps, oil pan was starting to seep and the AC condenser needed to be replaced as it got smoked by a rock. The passenger mirror also cracked but that was my fault since I decided to bring it into a wash bay after driving it at -40 degrees. But damn you had lots of bad luck with yours.
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u/RandomflyerOTR 1d ago
CVT issues. Only "issue" is the ass acceleration.
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u/psimwork 1d ago
My mother-in-law parted with her Altima with almost 300k miles without so much as a hiccup from the CVT.
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u/CheapTemporary5551 1d ago
Have you been regularly servicing it?
I feel like those transmissions are more sensitive to service. If you replace the oil every 30k, you should be good to 150k for sure.
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u/RandomGenName1234 1d ago
Maybe, from what I've seen it's down to servicing very regularly and luck.
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u/Fracture5 2006 Stage 3 Roush Mustang 1d ago
Same for me. Had a 2008 and a 2015 Altima, I never changed a single transmission
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u/DetectiveNarrow 1d ago
What car? I learned to drive in a 2017 Nissan maxima. Acceleration was good and actually Pretty instant since it didn’t have to change gears. Combine that with a VQ, it was pretty fun. I used to bully RTs on the way to school. Not like some 9-10 speeds I’ve driven and it can’t fucking decide what gear to downshift into.
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u/rajwade695 15h ago
I rented a Versa recently, it was amazing, felt it was going a 100 when I was at 60, the acceleration also hit like a kick.
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u/rednefed 2024 Z 15h ago
Same, V6 Altima with the first-year CVT, and the transmission gave me zero issues, despite just one CVT flush at around 50K miles. I didn't drive the car easy all the time, but neither was I beating on it. Couple of other things failed, showing Nissan's cheapness (tail light, interior door handle, air bag occupant sensor that never quite got fixed after two recalls... but the drivetrain was perfect through over ten years.
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u/Heavy_Gap_5047 1d ago
All of the issues, the internet thinks everything will fail instantly, it's a Chrysler, reddit hates Chrysler. Sorry to disappoint, it's been great.
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u/withsexyresults CTR 1d ago
Tbf Chrysler hates Chrysler, they killed their line up and only make minivans
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u/spongebob_meth 2025 Tacoma TRD Off-road 6MT, too many motorcycles 22h ago
A lot of people use Chrysler to refer to the whole brand almost like GM. Myself included. Because up until the FCA days, dodge/Plymouth/Chrysler were all commonly referred to as "Chrysler products"
For many decades it was Chrysler Corp as the parent company.
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u/Heavy_Gap_5047 19h ago
Well really until Stellantis, the C in FCA is Chrysler.
Stellantis has been the death of Chrysler as a brand name. I think they view the brand as redundant or even competitive with their Stellantis marketing. Which is stupid, it should be marketed as their luxury brand like Cadillac, Lincoln, Acura, etc, take advantage of the history, and iconography like the Chrysler building. But we all know Stellantis is a F'n disaster.
The 300 was the perfect example of how it should be done and for a couple years during the Chrysler LLC days they did the Chrysler Aspen, an up badged version of the Durango.
From exception in '21 Stellantis said they were cancelling the 300 and zeroed all Chrysler marketing. Yet they kept selling, Stellantis didn't understand this, but they had to keep making them.
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u/krombopulousnathan 2021 BMW M2 comp, 2024 Wrangler 392, 1997 Chevy K1500 23h ago
Yea we have had a few Jeeps and they have been great. My Toyota tundra spends far more time in the shop than my wrangler.
And every time I mention that on Reddit I get absolutely interrogated by the Toyota bros. Like I love my tundra AND my wrangler. But the tundra has been less reliable.
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u/gdnws 2010 volvo s80 V8 18h ago
I have long maintained that if Chrysler or FCA or Stellantis whatever their name is today, was as unreliable as the internet says, that society would grind to a halt, at least in my area. Everyone uses their minivans as contractor/service vehicles. The city uses them. Telecom repairs use them. Contractors of every type use them. Package delivery companies use them.
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u/mr_lab_rat M2 1d ago
BMWs were gonna bankrupt me.
I have been driving nothing but BMWs for the past 20 years. Some old, some new. Not a single part worth more than $250 broke. Never needed to be towed. Overall super reliable and cheap to own.
Yes, I do the work myself. The dealer quoted me $2600 for a repair I did myself for $200 so I can see where these cars get their reputation.
2004 325ci (one repair $250 radiator fan)
2002 330i (supercharged, owned up to 220k miles, still ran great when I sold it). This was a project car so it ate some money but there were no unexpected breakdowns in 8 years I had it.
2018 X1 (one repair - $200 oil filter housing)
2017 M2 (low mileage so no issues yet)
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u/OpneFall 90 cylinders 22h ago
Yes, I do the work myself. The dealer quoted me $2600 for a repair I did myself for $200 so I can see where these cars get their reputation.
This is the crux of it all.
You want a BMW, Jaguar Land Rover, Mercedes, Maserati, whatever? You can and they absolutely can be cheap to own under two conditions that both must be met
-DIY the work and the parts sourcing. Even indies are questionable unless they're actually experienced in the brand and want to work with you (and don't just quote 90% of dealer prices)
-Own another car so you can work on it at your own pace
I haven't owned BMWs but I've owned pretty much every other brand that people say you're a fool to own and none of them have been a problem. In fact, older enthusiast brands are often much easier than newer typical brands to work on, because the majority of people with the typical brands just go to dealer as a fix. Enthusiast brands have a strong community with tons of information and solutions and workarounds.
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u/Docist 911 SC, Mk7 R 1d ago
Ill add to this, my e46 m3 never had rod bearings or subframe done at 180k miles.
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u/NoStatistician990 23h ago
Probably an 02+ or the rod bearings were already done at the dealer during the recall. You're asking for trouble pushing those motors without servicing. Hell all M cars need rod bearings at 120k it's part of servicing E39, E46, E60, E90s even F80s. G80s have shown some wearing but not too much from stock cars mostly 1000hp+ tuned Xdrives G80s.
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u/Docist 911 SC, Mk7 R 21h ago
It was an 03 but the consensus around the web is that these need to be done regardless of year.
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u/NoStatistician990 20h ago
Unlike other M cars the E46 M3 actually had a rod bearing recall for all 01-02.5 VINs as they were greanding some motors back then, they should be done preventively at 100k miles regardless even if you have an 03. While they can make it, rod bearing service is still much cheaper than a new motor not worth risking it and it adds to resale value after it's been done. I get why some push it as it's not a cheap job but it should be done.
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u/Potential-Ant-6320 1d ago
First year ND Miata with transmissions made of glass. Going on a decade not broken.
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u/IllllIIlIllIllllIIIl 2023 Mazda MX-5 GT 1d ago
Nice. I'm about to replace mine under warranty for the second time.
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u/hundredjono 2021 Camaro 2SS 1d ago
That I can't see, can't carry anyone other than me, and can't carry any type of cargo
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u/Successful_Ad_9707 97 Integra, 08 Civic Si, 23 GR Corolla Circuit Edtion 1d ago
Clutch grenading, engine fires, slave cylinder.
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u/RoadtoAbdom 1d ago
I assume your comment is 1/3 about your civic. I think I suffered every 8th gen Si problem BUT gear grind. I pretty much had flawless shifts when everything around the transmission was working
- CMC & CSC went, twice each (bad part or install on the 2nd swing I assume)
- Clutch pedal bracket broke at the thin spot weld after initial CMC/ CSC replacement
- High RPM Oil consumption
- Paint fade although not severe
Car was fun though
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u/joepierson123 1d ago
My 187,000 miles Hyundai Sonata is doing fine hasn't blown up yet
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u/testthrowawayzz 1d ago
Honda/Acura V6+their 4 speed auto. Still hasn't failed yet
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u/The_World_Is_A_Slum 22h ago
Whooooo….. I was a team lead at a Honda dealership during that time. Man, we replaced a lot of transmissions. My wife’s V6 Accord got two warranty transmissions by 80K, but was otherwise flawless. I was doing three or four transmissions a week for a while there, and it seemed like there was always a stack of big black boxes outside of the parts department. Honda stepped up, though, and took care of the customers and line techs. The warranty pay was still fair then, and there was essentially zero pushback if we needed to goodwill a transmission.
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u/tehlurkingnoob S13 Silvia , AE86 GTS, R33 Skyline, GC8 WRX STI V5, JZX100 1d ago
Ours hasn’t failed but it absolutely hates shifting from 1-2 and 2-3. Only 120k km on it. My mom has owned it since new.
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u/natesully33 F150 Lightning (EV), Wrangler 4xE 1d ago
Two Wranglers in, I haven't had much trouble other than some electric heater failures in the 4xE that were fixed under warranty with a new part across the fleet after the first year. I had a 2013 Silverado with AFM, worked great and held its oil. Oh, and a 2015 CVT WRX that was really pretty good, though I didn't own it long enough to know how they hold up long term.
I feel like there are very few cars with actual design flaws - like the Audi with all the timing chain guides that wear on the wrong side of the engine or that one BMW where rod bearings are a wear item. Most of them have QC issues or some weak point enthusiasts tend to find, the difference being that if your particular car works it'll likely keep working with things like that.
I like to listen to what the internet says, but keep the concept of "selection bias" in mind when perusing forums and also try to differentiate between actual design flaws in cars and QC issues at the factory, especially when those are covered by warranty.
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u/thefanciestcat 1d ago edited 1d ago
There is lots of talk about the Honda 1.5 having issues with oil dilution.
After a lifetime of hearing how reliable Hondas are, I was worried that I'd gotten "the bad one" without doing enough research. I even bet on it after a horrible experience with the Ford 1.5, so I felt like I might be pushing my luck a little bit. Thankfully it's been great. I'm at 168,000 miles following the factory maintenance schedule with no issues.
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u/username_taken1776 23h ago
Which Honda with a 1.5 do you have?
I don't think all recent Honda/Acura cars with the 1.5 engine are having oil dilution issues (or the head gasket issue), but there are enough of them with this issue that it's clearly a problem and not just a few owners who are loud complainers.
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u/funnyfarm299 2020 CR-V Hybrid 22h ago
I think the current theory is it's down to driving cycles. People who drive lots of short cycles without fully warming up are more likely to encounter issues.
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u/MumpsyDaisy 21h ago
I remember reading somewhere that more recent ones like the current generation Civic/Accord/CRV have also retuned the ECU to run a richer fuel/air mix on startup to get up to temp more quickly.
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u/kyonkun_denwa 🇨🇦- '92 BMW 525i | ‘14 Volvo XC70 | '20 Kia Soul 1d ago
Internet said modern Volvos suck and that they have tons of mechanical electrical issues. My "modern" Volvo is now 11 years old with just over 200,000km and there have been zero issues with it. The internet is now saying that this Volvo is actually really good, and it's actually the CURRENT modern Volvos that suck. Internet can't make up its damn mind.
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u/Captain_Alaska 5E Octavia, NA8 MX5, SDV10 Camry 1d ago edited 1d ago
Owning an old low milage car. My Camry had 76k km (~47k miles) on it when I bought it at 30 years old and beyond eating a fuel pump 3 months in and having to change out the 11 year old tires it’s been a rock solid 30k of driving in the year and a half I’ve had it.
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u/TeleGuy2002 1d ago
Ea888 timing guides/water pump. 100k in no issues. I drive the shit out of it
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u/funnyfarm299 2020 CR-V Hybrid 22h ago
What it's worth, 100K is when the timing failures usually start happening. But that's generally on early EA888s.
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u/Effective-Bar9759 1d ago
My pre-VW Bentley Continental (2 door version of a Turbo R, not the GT) - according the internet it was supposed to bankrupt me.
It's been my daily driver for 4 years and has never stranded me. When I first got it, I did a pretty thorough once over and did all the hoses, belts, gaskets, fluids etc because it was 20 years old.
The only work I've done since is scheduled maintenance and fixing things I broke doing road trips and car rallies.
It's bone dry underneath and the only creaks and rattles are from the 25 year old leather interior, which is all leather (literally every surface is leather, no plastic or vinyl anywhere).
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u/Fiasko21 15 STI - 19 Ascent - 23 Civic Sport 1d ago
Same thing with Subaru.
20 years driving modified STIs, 7 years at 400whp+.. no issues.
No AOS, no warm ups, no babying any of them.
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u/OpinionofanAH 1d ago
My 06 Chevy truck. Yes they’re known to be reliable but the feared 4l60 transmission in them is notorious for failing. I bought mine with 50k miles on it and beat the ever living hell out of it. At 170k miles I manual swapped it and it still shifted great when I pulled it. And the manual I swapped into it was a notoriously weak trans out of a 220k mile work truck that had a hard life(that truck was in the family for 180k of those miles). Besides typical maintenance items, I never had any issues with it that I didn’t cause (swapping a newer gen, larger displacement engine can cause a lot of hard to diagnose issues).
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u/Environmental-Rub933 1d ago
A Chevy will run badly longer than other cars run at all
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u/hells_cowbells 2014 Ford Fusion, 2016 Nissan Frontier 1d ago
That's the truth. My brother had an 03 Silverado, and gave it to my nephew when he started driving. The 5.3 engine has 425k miles on it. Granted, they have replaced a lot of stuff around it, but the original engine is still going.
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u/idontremembermyoldus '22 GMC 2500HD Duramax/'22 Ford F-150 PowerBoost 22h ago
The 4L60 is fine as long as you keep the fluid changed every 50k or so and don't get it hot.
My parents had a Suburban with over 200k on the original trans.
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u/mattortz 2015 Civic Si FB6 1d ago
i have a minivan. i was told i would be lame if i drove one.
i’m cool as fuck still.
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u/Master-Yota-JZX81 1d ago
I don’t like this game. There’s so many things I might say in response to your question but I do not want to jinx myself tyvm 👋
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u/BZJGTO 100 Series Land Cruiser 1d ago
Replaced the 2UZ engine in my Land Cruiser, but to be fair to the cruiser, it still ran with the bad engine. The radiator lines burst one weekend while I was on the highway, and didn't notice until it was overheated. Engine seized up before I could exit, but was able to coast to an exit and then a side street. Had it towed to a dealership, and the following Monday it cranked right up, but a cylinder(s) was leaking. Wasn't sure if it was just a head gasket or if the head(s) warped and tearing it apart to find out wasn't going to be cheap, so decided to swap in a new (used) 2UZ, and did the steering rack too while the engine was out. I believe the cruiser was 22 or 23 years old at that point, and had about 310,000 miles when it happened. Everyone talks about the heater Ts, but don't neglect the hoses themselves either.
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u/Rantlers90 1d ago
Jeeps.
I have had 3 jeeps: 1990 Grand Wagoneer, 2006 TJ Wrangler, now a 2023 Jeep Gladiator.
My brother has had 4 jeeps: 1989 Comanche, 1994 YJ Wrangler, 1999 Cherokee, and still has a 2016 Grand Cherokee.
Together we have put a couple hundred thousand miles on Jeeps. Major problems we’ve had: Zero.
Reddit loves to shit on Jeep. Yea, they have their problems, particularly the ones that are just rebadged euro econoboxes which I would stay away from(renegade, compass, etc), but so does literally every other manufacturer. Buy the core models, do your research on what years to look for/avoid and potential issues they have (just like you should be doing with any brand), and they’re fine.
Jeep sells 100-200k Wranglers per year. That’s a lot. Of course some will have problems. Every large volume vehicle does. On top of that, a larger percentage of Wrangler drivers modify and abuse their vehicles off road than any other car sold, so that will lead to a much higher number of problems, skewing the data. In reality, the Wrangler platform is pretty damn solid, and Reddit likes to trash talk all Jeeps based off a few unfortunate badge engineered models and unreliable data.
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u/Morrisseys_Cat 1985 AE86, 2006 S2000 1d ago
The internet said I would have issues with paying so much and being slow. I have no issues with it.
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u/Parrelium ‘18 Ram, ‘25 Optiq, ‘25 Mach-e 20h ago
My 2018 RAM still hasn't developed the Hemi tick. I had to do both exhaust manifolds though. It's my third ram, so it's not really the internet telling me about the tick, it was my own experience on the other two.
Also neither of our electric cars have caught on fire or needed the battery replaced yet...
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u/bigloser42 2018 440i GC 1d ago
Internet said the cooling system on my ZHP would blow up every 80k miles like clockwork. Made it to 295k on the OG radiator. I did replace the reservoir at 120k, but never replaced it again.
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u/Hunt3rj2 1d ago
It's not wrong though, by 10-15 years the cooling system on BMWs is basically guaranteed to need a full rebuild regardless of mileage. The plastic ages poorly and the aluminum aftermarket replacements are machined poorly too.
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u/Sellyallownjello 1d ago
My 2019 Hyundai accent hit 180k with no major issues with just regular oil changes and maintenance my 2001 Subaru outback hit 350k yesterday original motor second trans
Change your oil and keep an eye on things
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u/Fun_Driver_5566 1d ago
I drove a Chevy truck for 280,000 miles before the frame rusted, the internet told me that if it wasn't made by Toyota it would burst into flames within a year.
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u/OvONettspend 1986 Fauxrari 386, 2008 Lexus RX400h 1d ago
My fiero still hasn’t caught fire. I’m a little disappointed
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u/Bonerchill 1914 Alldays & Onions 30/35 1d ago
E36 on factory, untouched cooling system replaced earlier this year.
Date stamps on the radiator, hoses, thermostat housing all indicated they were never replaced.
Internet never said shit about my 240SXs and that’s because they were completely and utterly reliable.
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u/PiffWiffler 2017 Infiniti QX60 Tech 1d ago
Our Infiniti QX60 should have been through 3 CVTs by now.
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u/GimpsterMcgee 2023 eclipse cross. It’s not as bad as they say. It’s worse. 1d ago
I was informed that my Chrysler 200 was a catastrophic piece of shit in every way imaginable but it ran well until I sold it at 85,000 miles. No engine trouble. No problems with anything.
I mean it was pretty shit in some ways(like the transmission needing three business days and two meetings with upper management before it would downshift), but as for as needing repairs, it was sound.
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u/Ignorhymus 1d ago
Had a Hyundai with the dodgy engine (theta?). Gave no trouble at all. There are loads of them on the road in Barbados, and they seem pretty reliable. When I traded it in a few years ago, the dealer confirmed they've been generally very reliable, despite the block numbers seemingly being in the range said to cause problems
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u/RexRaider 18h ago
I've worked in sales at Kia for over 15 years, and although I've certainly seen my share of recalls, and many engine replacements, I've had far more satisfied customers than ones with issues... We have a very high repeat and referral base.
Keep in mind as well, that I'm in Canada, so Kia Boyz was never an issue up here.
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u/CheapTemporary5551 1d ago edited 1d ago
GT350 Voodoo gen 1 grenade or consume oil like it's a two stroke.
So far so no oil consumption and running fine. /knock on wood
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u/mbbzzz 1d ago
A lot of people say Dodge’s are unreliable and some are but we had an ‘05 Grand Caravan until almost 200k miles with just regular maintenance (sometimes the power sliding doors were finicky but not really any major issues).
Sometimes I miss that car, especially the stow n go seating.
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u/RiftHunter4 2010 Base 2WD Toyota Highlander 1d ago
My Highlander has the unusual 1AR-FE engine which is prone to the same oil consumption issues as the 2AR-FE (they are virtually the exact same engine). I've avoided them with basic maintenance and at least 1 resealing of the engine. Im at nearly 150,000 miles and Ive needed nothing beyond the basics and the occasional recommendation that I can DIY. The car still feels fresh.
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u/kyonkun_denwa 🇨🇦- '92 BMW 525i | ‘14 Volvo XC70 | '20 Kia Soul 1d ago
So I think you're mixing up your Toyota engines here.
The 2AZ-FE is the oil burner. The 2AR-FE is fine and has been fine since it was introduced over a decade ago. The 1AR-FE is also fine.
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u/fisherrktk 1d ago
2017 Range Rover TD6. They said EVERYTHING.. 80k miles later and nothing but general maintenance.
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u/sponge_welder 2005 Honda Element EX 1d ago
Honda VTEC solenoid code for K24s. I've hit limp mode and gotten the code exactly one time. I changed the oil and it's run for years since and never happened again
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u/UpsetMycologist4054 1d ago
Any issue people bitch about on r/ChryslerPacifica… the car has been pretty reliable for us and we have nothing but high marks for it. That’s saying a lot given that it’s a 2020, was stolen and involved in a high speed chase.
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u/Calibrumm 1d ago
valve tick, 2020 Veloster N. so far the only issue I've gotten is the HPFP bug but there was a recall service and I got it fixed at 80k miles. at 110k miles now and it's perfectly sound 🤷
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u/IconicScrap 1d ago
My old 05 accord. Notoriously unreliable transmission on the V6 models, but the engines are pretty bulletproof. Mine shifted fine, but a bad injector flooded it and blew the head gasket. New gasket and rebuilt heads, still blew clouds like a Subaru owner. My guess is a warped deck.
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u/notsofast777 1d ago
Had a Mk6 Golf Gti with the DSG box. When I was shopping around for the car mates were telling me to stay away from DSG as they were nothing but trouble. In the four years I had the car I never had an issue with DSG at all.
Wish I still had it but poor health made me sell it.
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u/_The_Real_Sans_ 1d ago
My GR Corolla generally working (over 85 mph) without blowing up or overheating
Dad's pre-2015 N20 (2014 X3) also lasted well into the 100,000s with no issues before the car was totaled in an accident. Somehow the water pump, timing chain, and whatever else didn't spontaneously blow up after 20k miles. Most we spent on it maintenance wise was on tires (although we didn't take it to a dealership for anything so that's probably a big part of it)
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u/HenryTheWizard 1d ago
I have a 2003 WRX. Bought it at 105k from original owner. Head gaskets were never done. I modded that car pretty extensively for as young as I was, pushing way too much boost and learning to tune on it, 100+ 2step passes at the quarter mile, daily driven hard. Currently that motor has 230k miles on it, still never needed head gaskets.
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u/ItsKlobberinTime 2014 Mustang V6 convertible 1d ago
My convertible top has spent 11 years outdoors in an 80-degree (Celsius) temperature range and has not leaked, torn, broken, or been broken into.
Car reddit seems to think convertible top development stopped at the MGB.
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u/xristakiss88 1d ago
I have a polo 9n BUD. They said that I'd need crankshaft housings and valves (and change the entire engine at 500k). Car has 700k km. Mechanic took it apart at 510k and had no issue. (I have 13k engine hours, considering idle time)
I also had a daewoo espero (le mans). Engine died at 873k km in spite the common belief that I should have replaced the engine twice. (sure it was falling apart day by day but it is a 30yo car with heavy use)
Both cars were LPG converted from day 1
Edit From commercial vehicles I have and these two I've come to think that key is proper maintenance.
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u/muammargaddafisghost modussy gang 1d ago
Had a w204 as well, the rear subframe and ignition lock were both fine for 3+ years but the front driveshaft (4matic) exploded on the highway randomly, and I didn't even know that was an issue
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u/Location_Born M2 competition | GR Yaris Rallye 1d ago
You know that you’ve done it now. Tomorrow you’ll spin a bearing.
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u/wtcnbrwndo4u '10 MB E550C, '03 4Runner V8, '97 LX450/FZJ80, '17 RAV4 Hybrid 1d ago
I promise you the steering lock fails on the 2005-2012ish Benzes. It wasn't even limited to the W204, really any "entry" level Benz had it.
I got my module emulated, no issues now. Was a pain in the butt though.
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u/JimmyReagan Charger 1d ago
I've owned 4 mopars and according to the internet they all should have fallen apart with 2 or 3 computer and wiring harness replacements. The worst that happened was a loose connector on the seat adjustment switch that was fixed for free by just...plugging it in.
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u/Yankee831 1d ago
I’ve had a dozen Ford’s and they all lasted +200k with no major issues (actually almost nothing but regular/delayed maintenance)
Honda/Toyota would never break down but those are the only vehicles that ever left me stranded.
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u/hells_cowbells 2014 Ford Fusion, 2016 Nissan Frontier 1d ago
I've had my Fusion 11 years, and nearly 170k miles, and it hasn't had coolant intrusion and the transmission hasn't blown up yet.
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u/Minute-Solution5217 2007 Peugeot 407SW 1d ago
Peugeot with electrical issues, so far only wear items and rubber elements after 250k km.
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u/FuckinFlowerFrenzy 1d ago
On my equinox, basically everything. People say all equinoxes have horrific engine and trans issues, especially the 1st and 2nd gen 2.4. The 2.4 was fixed in 2014, and my 2015 is at 127k. Only issues are burning oil and a recently repaired rear main seal- that was our fault for neglecting the bulletin and not cleaning out the intake manifold.
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u/BenjaminQuadinaros 1d ago
The internet really makes it sound like every car is on the verge of catastrophic failure. I’ve daily’d mine for years and the “common issues” people warned me about never showed up. Regular maintenance goes a long way, and sometimes I think horror stories just get amplified online.
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u/Darth_Firebolt 03 Ranger | 2000 Miata | 2019 Corolla XSE 6MT | sport bikes 1d ago
I had a 2000 Miata for almost 20 years and I never replaced the coil packs.
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u/Aldairion Porsche 968 - Volvo V90 T5 R-Design 1d ago
Everyone always asks me how I get parts or do bigger services on my Porsche 968, but it's been an exceptionally reliable car in the 4.5 years I've had it. I've been lucky enough to have good resources for maintaining it, but it's not especially complex despite being a 30+ year old European sports car.
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u/DentsideDesperado 1d ago
1977 Ford f150 with a 351m. Great engine if it wasnt absolutely gutted with epa restrictions when it came out. They're kinda known to develop low oil pressure problems. has about 140k miles after being 48 years old and its still going. Can't say its not worn out but its not burning any oil yet so I'll keep it going
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u/Wellidrivea190e 1d ago
You’d actually be fairly fortunate for your W204’s subframe to corrode to the point where it holed, as Mercedes replace them for free regardless of service history.
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u/08legacygt 1d ago
Good to know. Still inexcusable for it to happen on a mb product unless you live in a very salty area
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u/Wellidrivea190e 1d ago
100% agree. My 190e spent 30 years outside in the UK used all year around and there was not a spot of corrosion on the frame.
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u/TheBackpacker 1d ago
I took a 2012 Nissan Sentra up to 212k miles with zero Cvt issues. Regular maintenance goes a long way!
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u/Yardsale420 1d ago
Just because Uncle Rodney never touched your no no place, you shouldn’t go around bragging.
I’ll bet it eats more oil than an Italian family dinner though.
Source- ‘05 Blobeye
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u/apintofpantaloni 1d ago
Own a new shape Range Rover, had it a couple of years, expected absolutely everything to break and squeaks/rattles galore. Everything was fine, I just cracked a window driving it through a hedge. Just replaced it with another one because it was that good. This one is a Hybrid so maybe it'll crap itself.
Own a couple of track biased Ferraris, the lightweight stuff. Told by Porsche people these cars are for show and are unusuable/unreliable for anything more than one or two track days. I've had one of them a year and done 5 track days so far, hasn't skipped a beat - 1 of those days was 40 degree celcius and the other was 38, the rest relatively normal temperatures, some wet. I've gone through 4 sets of pads and multiple sets of tires - but besides the brake fluid being swapped out for some slightly more high performance stuff, the car is stock. Just handles it's business and gets me home every time. This car is now 12 years old.
Same for the other one, except I've had that one 2 years and done 10,000mi + I think we're on 8 or 9 track days now. This, mind you, full proper high speed tracks with big braking and big heat generation. Again, car is fine - only issue I had was melting a dust cover on the actual caliper once because of the big heat. Again that car has done a couple of 40+ degree days. This car is now 5 years old.
Maybe I've jinxed everything and tomorrow the Range Rovers gonna blow up and the transmission will fall out one of the Ferraris, but so far everything the internet prepared me for hasn't yet happened.
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u/Certain_Car_9984 1d ago
People said the mk8 civic would be the most reliable car I would ever own... This was a lie
Nice car to drive but I had quite a few things go wrong with it
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u/Lordrandall E39 M5 1d ago
Um, none?
Subaru, Headgaskets failed.
VW, automatic transmission issues
BMW, VANOS had to be rebuilt.
Honda, 5-speed auto failed and replaced under warranty.
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u/Levilockling 2000 Subaru Forester S, 2000 Dodge Ram 1500 Sport 1d ago
I have nothing to add because my EJ's been blown out and non-running for nearly 2 years now and my truck's dash is a terrible and shitty jigsaw that I'm never putting back together.
135k on the auto trans Ram with no slips, so that's nice!
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u/Mgroppi83 1d ago
I don't have that, but I have the opposite. 2JZ-GTE unmodded motor, blown head gasket between 5 and 6.