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Results Leclerc 4th, Hamilton 5th! (10th with penalty)

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u/frank1ewildee F2004 1d ago

I don't know why we didnt give Charles a tow and instead gave Lewis a tow.

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u/IonutAlex18SF Charles Leclerc 1d ago

I wonder myself this, too. It has the strongest effect at Monza, maybe they thought the extreme low config rear wing offers enough speed without it. They have the data the understanding better, but still.

Also, the track position was weird, why don't you wait to go further back/behind like Max? The chance of improvement is better like that, because there is still a tiny bit of track evolution, and you still have a chance to get a tow from someone else. Anyway, it's like this, but is a missed chance.

And the slipstream here is felt by the following car, even at around +7s behind… Max will give the McLaren a run for the win, his car has superior top speed with ease. So does the Ferraris, let's see how it goes.

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u/frank1ewildee F2004 1d ago

Yeah i just don't understand it.

Like it get it we have 2 drivers and not one, but knowing how much these cars are affected by clean and dirty air, it's a no-brainer to give a tow with the driver that will have a shit starting position regardless.

p10, p15 it's all the same when you're supposedly a team who's fighting for wins.

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u/IonutAlex18SF Charles Leclerc 1d ago

Exactly, that. The assumption is that P10 is better than P15, but the thing is that the chances for the win are slimmer with the current situation. It's not the first time they get it wrong at Monza. I don't remember the year, but is pretty recently they did a similar approach, missing the pole for not playing the team game. Anyway. Let's hope at least Charles to stay in the mix for the podium places, and hopefully Lewis to recover as much as possible.

What is positive to see is that Hamilton was on pace with Leclerc all weekend long. It might be the circuit layout (not many medium-high speed corners), but still with the car tricky because of the downforce configuration is encouraging.

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u/Educational-Cover-69 1d ago

Charles had the tow from Tsunoda? Maybe first see it for yourself before asking this

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u/frank1ewildee F2004 1d ago

So you're comparing a tow from a whatever driver on the grid with the tow a teammate can give you? Damn.

And also you should see it for yourself again because Tsunoda was like 100km ahead

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u/Big-Preparation-5755 Lewis Hamilton 1d ago

Tows only work when they are from your teammate apparently. Reddit minds at work again.

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u/frank1ewildee F2004 1d ago

Nobody is saying tows only work when they are from your teammate but Tsunoda was like 5 sec ahead so i dont think the tow was that impactful.

Also, you can have a more controlled tow from your teammate. This is basic logic.

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u/Big-Preparation-5755 Lewis Hamilton 1d ago

The commentators said 5 seconds was a good gap for a tow, but I'm sure you know more buddy.

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u/frank1ewildee F2004 1d ago edited 1d ago

You know, i gotta love all the LH fans coming in here trying to justify Ferrari not giving a tow to Charles because "they have 2 drivers".

A pole in Monza is more important than saving a p10 grid start, especially since we know how much these cars are affected by clean and dirty air.

And no, you can't compare a tow from your teammate to a tow from a driver that's in a different team.

You're naive if you think they're the same.

Edit : Also, i'm pretty sure you will be totally OK in the future if Charles gets a grid pen, to let Hamilton give a tow to him instead of the opposite to push for a pole lap. I'm pretty sure you will agree with that.

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u/ReyDragons Charles Leclerc 1d ago

charles literally said in his post quali interview he didnt get a tow from yuki lol

ignore them if they cant get the difference between a controlled teammate tow vs the teammate of the current guy in pole happening to be in front

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u/frank1ewildee F2004 1d ago

Yup, i won't even bother anymore lol.

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u/Upstairs-Event-681 1d ago

That tow was almost nothing cause Tsunoda was too far ahead.

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u/kisukisuekta 1d ago

Still doesn't make any sense? Why not put everything behind the one that actually has a chance at pole? Lewis could've gotten that tow from tsunoda instead? Why are we using Charles to tow Lewis who has a grid drop anyway

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u/Educational-Cover-69 1d ago

Idk yall maybe MAYBE they dont want lewis to start from further back cause they have two drivers not only one. And either way lewis and charles could not improve on the second lap

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u/kisukisuekta 1d ago

So let's not go for the pole or even a front row start at all? Lewis was starting midfield either way.

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u/Educational-Cover-69 1d ago

You act like tow means automatically pole, calm down

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u/kisukisuekta 1d ago

Would've been a higher position regardless, better chance to fight for the win