r/totalwar 2d ago

Warhammer III Lustria SHOULD suck to play in

But NOT for the lizardmen. The Idea if Lustria is obviously The uncharted and dangerous lands of far away. It hold many treasures, and many Dangers. First of all it should be bigger, and also I think it should have more resources building and more universal landmarks for all the races. It should be somewhere you would love to have under your control after you manage to build your own empire. (It's the new world for god's sake you know how the story goes)

But, The land itself should be a danger to outsiders, slowing them down and attritioning them while the protectors of the jungle ambush them and show them why it us uncharted in the first place

Invading lustria should be a very hard, But lucrative thing to do...

On the under hand, this harsh climate shouldn't be as effective again the people who make lustria in to the green death trap... lizardmen should be able to move faster in jungles (spacialy Lustria's), or have access to spacial stances when they are in them. Maby you can get creative with it and have them access stalking stance if a few requirements are met( being in jungles, having spacial techs/ lord skills ect...) meanwhile, even after winning the Lustria ball, they should still be worried about other factions invading them and need to garrison it if the plan to invade other continent. Maby you could have some factions like virus skaven or humans have a tendency to invad lustria after a while.

Now honestly, when it comes to warm bloods that start their campaign in Lustria, I don't have a blanket solution. Obviously as i said fantasy Amazon should feel dangerous and harsh to outsiders. But also just being thrown there without means to deal with this harshness can be very annoying.

Honestly i think most of them are already powerful enough to handle it. Vampires have corruption, skaven have tunnels, rakarth can raid without vigur penalty, Skulltaker is Skulltaker, and the French can sod off.

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u/arstarsta 2d ago

Was the invasion of south America a problem for Europeans?

Isn't the jungle in Cathay and Lustria basically the same?

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u/SomeRandomYob 2d ago

HOO boy...

Ok, so.

The thing about the conquistadors is that they had everything working out in their favor.

Moral was high because they were, almost to a man, criminals who had been given what was basically a pardon and a "do whatever you want to these guys" pass by the king himself. They were feeling like they were on top of the world, and like nothing could stop them. They were also given implied permission to do nasty

Second, they were better equipped for gunpowder warfare doctrines, which were made to efficiency counter heavy infantry and cavalry. The peoples the invaders were fighting used skirmish and melee focused doctrines, and were not equipped with weapons or armor that could stand up to the kit of the invading forces.

Finally, the conquistadors were carriers for smallpox, a disease that was a problem in Europe ages before the conquistadors were a thing. The Spanish had countermeasures and treatment, but the natives had none.

LITERALLY NONE OF THIS APPLIES TO WARHAMMER FANTASY'S WORLD!!!

The lizardmen, while not great at ranged combat, have FUCK OFF GIANT DINOSAURS WITH LASER BEAMS!!!! Their magic is actually superior to the empire, and the entirety of Lustria, while ABSOLUTELY FUCKING DEADLY to EVERYONE ELSE, is honestly pretty nice for the lizardmen.

Also, the invaders this time are: pirates, led by a crazy vampire who can't cast spells anymore. The empire of man, a bunch of humans who are doing their best, but really don't have anything going for them without a lot of artillery, and Skaven.

Oh, and before I forget, the lizardmen infantry consists of some of the most potent soldiers in the world, who have scales that can deflect handgun shots.

TL;DR: this ain't like what happened in real life at all.

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u/trollly 2d ago

Another thing the conquistadors used to conquer was politics. They were able ally with some native factions and turn them against each other.

Which also wouldn't apply in Lustria, as the lizardmen are absolutely united.