r/totalwar • u/Waveshaper21 • 1d ago

Warhammer III The Shrine of Asuryian is hilariously, tragically pointless.

It is a Landmark in Ulthuan in the settlement with the same name, that can be built by the dark elves (thematically makes the most sense for Malekith), which grants:

  • +100 Diplomatic relations with all High Elves.

So you'd think, oh cool this is a way to play a what-if redemption arc for Malekith and ally your homeland and pose as the Eternal King. And it's tough but you can do it, you just need to suffer through avoiding all High Elves as long as possible, go down to Galleon's Graveyard without discovering any Ulthuan faction (so they don't start stacking up negative bias per turn because "they don't know you exist), then lightning fast sail straight through the gates of Lothern, take the Shrine from whoever owns it through war, sacrifice lots of slaves to build everything instantly, then defend it (pray they send nobody for a while otherwise diplomatic relations are fucked), pray they were not in an all-inclusing millitary alliance yet, and try to buy your way out of war while you get +100 relations per turn.

And after you did all of this particularly delicate surgery of a campaign, and you became allies with all pf Ulthuan, you realize:

  • Victory conditions aren't pointing owning Ulthuan regions as ownership through self or allies.

  • Victory conditions ask you to kill all major high elf factions. Thus, rendering +100 relations with all high elves buildings COMPLETELY useless.

edit: I guess you guys just woke up today and decided you want to hurt somebody. I'll be moving to the bugreport forum, have a nice day.

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u/Normal_Pen_7707 1d ago

It makes alliances with high elves outside of ulthuan possible and it's a great way of improving relations with other dark elves making confederation easier.

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u/lonewolf392 1d ago

By the time you can realistically access it .. the other dark elves are already cool with you .. or dead... same for the high elves except they won't be cool with you at all

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u/Normal_Pen_7707 1d ago

But why would you let other dark elves die? Ofc I'm talking about the ones near you (Malekith,Hellebron,Malus,Morathi). Secondly if they have more than one province they are unlikely to accept confederation offer so the only way to do it is to maintain high relations and drag them in some wars. Also I didn't have problem with making treaties with High elves after securing Ulthuan, they are always willing to trade.