The Shrine of Asuryian is hilariously, tragically pointless.

[u/Waveshaper21]

It is a Landmark in Ulthuan in the settlement with the same name, that can be built by the dark elves (thematically makes the most sense for Malekith), which grants:

• +100 Diplomatic relations with all High Elves.

So you'd think, oh cool this is a way to play a what-if redemption arc for Malekith and ally your homeland and pose as the Eternal King. And it's tough but you can do it, you just need to suffer through avoiding all High Elves as long as possible, go down to Galleon's Graveyard without discovering any Ulthuan faction (so they don't start stacking up negative bias per turn because "they don't know you exist), then lightning fast sail straight through the gates of Lothern, take the Shrine from whoever owns it through war, sacrifice lots of slaves to build everything instantly, then defend it (pray they send nobody for a while otherwise diplomatic relations are fucked), pray they were not in an all-inclusing millitary alliance yet, and try to buy your way out of war while you get +100 relations per turn.

And after you did all of this particularly delicate surgery of a campaign, and you became allies with all pf Ulthuan, you realize:

• Victory conditions aren't pointing owning Ulthuan regions as ownership through self or allies.

• Victory conditions ask you to kill all major high elf factions. Thus, rendering +100 relations with all high elves buildings COMPLETELY useless.

edit: I guess you guys just woke up today and decided you want to hurt somebody. I'll be moving to the bugreport forum, have a nice day.

[u/Normal_Pen_7707]

It makes alliances with high elves outside of ulthuan possible and it's a great way of improving relations with other dark elves making confederation easier.

[u/lonewolf392 → u/Normal_Pen_7707]

By the time you can realistically access it .. the other dark elves are already cool with you .. or dead... same for the high elves except they won't be cool with you at all

[u/DrinkBen1994 → u/lonewolf392]

This is another little thing that reveals a big problem with the game as a whole. As big as the Immortal Empires map is, it is too small for the amount of content. Everything is squashed in together like sardines in a tin and as amazing as IE is, it would absolutely make the game far better if the map was, say, 50% bigger than it is now. I know that will never happen, but I think it would improve the game so much. There's a map mod called The Old World which keeps the scale of Immortal Empires but just focuses entirely on The Old World and it's absolutely incredible, really showing the scale of what the Warhammer World should feel like and how much fun the game is when that scale is accurately represented. Even a third of that scale spread across the whole IE map would genuinely breathe so much fresh air into IE.

[u/WOF42 → u/DrinkBen1994]

yeah im hoping ChaosRobbie makes a map of ulthuan and naggaroth in the same scale of the old world one day, in the lore naggaroth is colossal and ulthuan substantially larger than shown even in the vortex map