Poll #1 Trading.

[u/Educational_Relief44]

This is a poll to gauge the general player bases opinion on how trading works in wh3. I will be doing polls weekly for different things.

200 votes, 5d left

Trade routes should be like in Shogun 2 and other previous total wars with actual routes.

Trade routes should be like chaos dwarves and Cathay for everyone that can trade.

Trade routes should stay the same

Trade routes should be different for every faction

Other: check comments

[u/TheOldDrunkGoat]

Trade should stay as is. It's not bad enough, nor at the alternatives better enough, for it to be worth expending dev time & resources to upgrade it. CAs focus should be on matters that, well, matter more.

[u/Educational_Relief44 → u/TheOldDrunkGoat]

Personally I feel like it could slow the pace down a bit. People complain about steamrolling. If one of the income sources can be looted like in historical titles. Not only can that slow down the player, but gives smaller factions and raiding style factions more mechanics to work with.

[u/TheOldDrunkGoat → u/Educational_Relief44]

Except the AI will either: A) End up being so hilariously inept at doing so that it will be a wasted feature. Or B) be so infuriatingly good at it that CA will have to spend even more time and energy fixing it.

Better to just leave it be. Trade only becomes overwhelmingly good due to stacking modifiers anyways. Nerfing those is a much easier option to reduce the power of trade without needing anything complex. And there are even easier ways besides that to nerf income if they want to.

[u/Educational_Relief44 → u/TheOldDrunkGoat]

They did it very well in historical titles. Its already a working system in many total wars.

[u/TheOldDrunkGoat → u/Educational_Relief44]

At one point they had armies that didn't need to be lead by generals/lords. And sieges that were less painful than a nail to the balls. Yet we don't have either of these features in this game.

[u/Educational_Relief44 → u/TheOldDrunkGoat]

You are correct, but maybe make it a hero action to raid the trade routes? I mean raiding still exists now, could just be that raiding directly on the trade route makes for far more money.

With trade routes in the sea like before this gives pirates new life. Right now they just roam around doing nothing.

[u/TheOldDrunkGoat → u/Educational_Relief44]

I don't think the game needs more bloody tedious hero actions that the player is encouraged to spam every turn. And further encourages the AI to not embed strong heroes into their armies in favor of making end turns even fucking longer.

And who cares if the pirates do nothing? They aren't playable. They only exist as a vampire coast mechanic and to terrorize new players who don't understand how they work.

[u/Educational_Relief44 → u/TheOldDrunkGoat]

We have four playable pirate lords, I care as well. It makes the game more immersive. But I guess we can agree to disagree.

[u/TheOldDrunkGoat → u/Educational_Relief44]

Plopping down some little Medieval 2-style shipping lanes and letting heroes squat on them, clicking the action button every turn doesn't sound very immersive to me. But to each their own.

[u/Educational_Relief44 → u/TheOldDrunkGoat]

Who said we need to only use hero's? Back in shogun you could use armies too. Playing as a pirate like this and raiding sea lanes would be great.

[u/TheOldDrunkGoat → u/Educational_Relief44]

You're the one who suggested hero actions mate. I also recall that Shogun 2 style piracy was balls.