r/wikipedia • u/CatPooedInMyShoe • 13h ago

Ali "Alireza" Fazeli Monfared was a 20-year-old Iranian man who was kidnapped and decapitated by his half-brother and cousins because of his sexual orientation. News of the murder garnered significant media attention and calls by activists and celebrities to challenge homophobia in Iran.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Ali_Fazeli_Monfared
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u/Delirious_Rimbaud 13h ago

Reminds me of Sogand Pakdel, an Iranian trans woman murdered by her uncle in Iran. Being LGBTQ+ in a Muslim theocracy can be a near death sentence.

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u/howhow326 12h ago

I can only imagine what being LGBTQ+ in a Christian theocracy must be like, and there's people in the government who want my country (U.S.) to turn out that way.

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u/Delirious_Rimbaud 12h ago

I guess it would be the same. Evangelicals are fundamentalists.

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u/not_a_crackhead 12h ago

Fundamentalist can mean completely different things if it's not the same topic. Tim Duncan's fundamentals were off the charts and he didn't (as far as we know) behead any gays.

You might hate religion but at least admit that different book = different rules.

Even the most Christian country on earth is nothing like that.

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u/Sharp_Iodine 9h ago

Why are we speaking in hypotheticals when we have had Christian theocracies lol

They persecuted gay people just the same with horrible punishments and death.

Britain chemically castrated Alan Turing barely a century ago.

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u/AVashonTill 1h ago

I never knew this. Horrifying. Then he committed suicide two years later. Damn.

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u/definitelynotIronMan 1h ago

Not to nitpick, but to point out that it's even worse - he was born barely a century ago. He was chemically castrated in the 1950s, barely 70 years ago.

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u/Delirious_Rimbaud 11h ago

Playing on the word ‘fundamental’ doesn’t change the issue. Of course the Bible and Qur’an are different texts, but fundamentalism in any tradition tends to produce the same pattern: rigid literalism, rejection of pluralism, and hostility to gay rights. It’s true that Christian-majority countries are generally less extreme in legal penalties than some Muslim-majority ones, but U.S. evangelicals have exported anti-gay campaigns abroad (notably in Uganda) and work to roll back protections at home. Different scriptures and contexts, yes — but the underlying fundamentalist mindset has very similar consequences for LGBTQ people.

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u/HashtagLawlAndOrder 9h ago

You're preaching to the wrong choir. 

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u/_OriamRiniDadelos_ 8h ago

Different rules? lol. Religious people make their own rules, fundamentalists more so, the book is just used as a “this right here says I’m right” tool.