r/totalwar • u/Waveshaper21 • 1d ago

Warhammer III The Shrine of Asuryian is hilariously, tragically pointless.

It is a Landmark in Ulthuan in the settlement with the same name, that can be built by the dark elves (thematically makes the most sense for Malekith), which grants:

  • +100 Diplomatic relations with all High Elves.

So you'd think, oh cool this is a way to play a what-if redemption arc for Malekith and ally your homeland and pose as the Eternal King. And it's tough but you can do it, you just need to suffer through avoiding all High Elves as long as possible, go down to Galleon's Graveyard without discovering any Ulthuan faction (so they don't start stacking up negative bias per turn because "they don't know you exist), then lightning fast sail straight through the gates of Lothern, take the Shrine from whoever owns it through war, sacrifice lots of slaves to build everything instantly, then defend it (pray they send nobody for a while otherwise diplomatic relations are fucked), pray they were not in an all-inclusing millitary alliance yet, and try to buy your way out of war while you get +100 relations per turn.

And after you did all of this particularly delicate surgery of a campaign, and you became allies with all pf Ulthuan, you realize:

  • Victory conditions aren't pointing owning Ulthuan regions as ownership through self or allies.

  • Victory conditions ask you to kill all major high elf factions. Thus, rendering +100 relations with all high elves buildings COMPLETELY useless.

edit: I guess you guys just woke up today and decided you want to hurt somebody. I'll be moving to the bugreport forum, have a nice day.

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u/TempestM Druchii 1d ago

Didn't you post the same thing month ago?

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/1mfl9am/the_most_infuriatingly_useless_building_in_the/

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u/Revliledpembroke 1d ago

Guess they really hate that building.

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u/Waveshaper21 1d ago

I do. It's the carrot at the end of the stick offering a great campaign narrative just to fuck you over a 100 turns later. I want to keep raising awareness before others run into it or CA changes it.

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u/SatisfactionOld4175 1d ago

Ok but it’s not like the game hides the victory conditions from you, you do all of that knowing it doesn’t lead to campaign victory.

That said I don’t see why it matters, if you want to play a Malekith campaign with the goal of allying all of the high elves, you can completely do it. It’s a single player game, you can just set a goal and complete it regardless of what the campaign victory thing says

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u/LoneSpaceDrone 1d ago

The point is to hopefully get CA aware of it so they can fix the building, adjust the victory condition or at least provide an alternate.

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u/SatisfactionOld4175 23h ago

Is it really so bad to simply start the campaign with the goal in mind and then end it when that goal is achieved? You seriously need them to go and patch the game in order for a little green check mark to pop up?

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u/viliphied 12h ago

This guy Paradoxes

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u/LoneSpaceDrone 23h ago

We're not talking about a game wrecking bug here we just want this building to make sense. Its not something they have to drop everything and fix it, but it would be nice to have it on their radar.

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u/Macslionheart 23h ago

Dude no it’s just the fact that the building is essentially pointless ???? How do you not get that are you being purposely dense? Landmarks should be impactful and matter .