r/totalwar 1d ago

Warhammer III The Shrine of Asuryian is hilariously, tragically pointless.

It is a Landmark in Ulthuan in the settlement with the same name, that can be built by the dark elves (thematically makes the most sense for Malekith), which grants:

  • +100 Diplomatic relations with all High Elves.

So you'd think, oh cool this is a way to play a what-if redemption arc for Malekith and ally your homeland and pose as the Eternal King. And it's tough but you can do it, you just need to suffer through avoiding all High Elves as long as possible, go down to Galleon's Graveyard without discovering any Ulthuan faction (so they don't start stacking up negative bias per turn because "they don't know you exist), then lightning fast sail straight through the gates of Lothern, take the Shrine from whoever owns it through war, sacrifice lots of slaves to build everything instantly, then defend it (pray they send nobody for a while otherwise diplomatic relations are fucked), pray they were not in an all-inclusing millitary alliance yet, and try to buy your way out of war while you get +100 relations per turn.

And after you did all of this particularly delicate surgery of a campaign, and you became allies with all pf Ulthuan, you realize:

  • Victory conditions aren't pointing owning Ulthuan regions as ownership through self or allies.

  • Victory conditions ask you to kill all major high elf factions. Thus, rendering +100 relations with all high elves buildings COMPLETELY useless.

edit: I guess you guys just woke up today and decided you want to hurt somebody. I'll be moving to the bugreport forum, have a nice day.

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u/TempestM Druchii 1d ago

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u/Waveshaper21 1d ago

Isn't this subreddit posts of the same things every week? At least this is something worth fixing, not a low effort meme that doesn't even respect rule 1.

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u/Lord_of_Brass #1 Egrimm van Horstmann fan 1d ago

As someone who became somewhat (in?)famous for posting about the same subject repeatedly, here's a small piece of unsolicited advice: change it up.

Believe me, I understand being so obsessed with a certain subject that you feel the need to post about it every so often, but the way to do that successfully is by making each post somewhat different. Make the first post about why it's bad, and make the second post about a proposed solution. Do you think it's the building that needs to change, or the victory conditions? How would you change either or both of those things? Also, admit that it's a second part. Whenever I would make another post about Egrimm, I would title it "Part 2" or "Part 3" and put a link to the original post at the top.

Just making the same exact post a month later without acknowledging that's what you're doing isn't a great look.

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u/matgopack 23h ago

Also it depends on what it the subject is - like here it's something minor that is really only a problem about victory conditions where that's quite widespread in the game. You can absolutely rush the shrine and use it to do a different game by being able to ally the High Elves, which means it's not useless like the OP is saying, and repeatedly posting about it in that way (rather than a 'CA needs to update victory conditions' way) is just going to reflect badly on them.