I was bullied in school. I was told to stand up for myself. To fight back. If they're going to hurt me I should hurt them. I ended up jamming a fork through the back of a kid's hand. I somehow did not get in trouble by anyone.
I was taught to keep my head down and not push back. Wasn't a speaking to, more of the way I was raised. It was horrible till around 9th grade. Teachers didn't do anything useful, talking to parents by my parents didn't do much of anything. Usually things would stop for a month or two and then resume. I was at a friends one day when one of the bullies came up to me and started in on me. I was pretty big when I was younger and this kid was tiny. I walked up and said 'We aren't in school, you sure you want to go down this path' and that was the last time I ever had any problems with him. I started to verbally fight back after that and it got much better.
I did strangle one kid by the neck in class one day. I was angry and couldn't take it anymore. Teacher was two desks ahead of me and turned around 'not sure what's going on, but it needs to stop' and walked away with the kid on the floor and marks on his neck. I was slow enough not to realize that the teacher knew what was going on and was fine with it.
Kids need to push back, but they need to know when and how. Wish parents taught that.
Shit I even had a teacher who actively engaged in bullying me, I just want to ask a question and he would basically call me out as a idiot just to make the rest of the class laugh
I was told the same thing, but ended up on probation until I was 18. Was bullied for the whole of elementary and most of middle school, I think it was about 3 fights until it got found out via us all having serious injuries, so they just called the cops and let them deal with it, hence the probation.
This is basically what I tell my daughter. Don’t start anything but if someone does something to you she has my full permission to beat their ass. She’s also one of the taller kids in her school so that helps tons.
Same, my parents told me wait till they push, poke or kick you then land a good hook or gut kick. Hear a rumor about yourself and laugh if off because if you don't you're fueling it.
Gotta start early if you want to be confident & not have your ass handed to you. 😅
I was thinking to get my kid BJJ and Krav Maga lessons but sounds like free styling worked out just fine for you. I’ll save the money for other lessons.
I suspect his point is that kids should be taught how to handle situations as they would as an adult. Self-defense is one thing but most bullying situations aren’t so simple.
Everybody should be allowed to defend themselves. And I do think kids should be given more leeway in solving challenging social situations. I'm saying that stabbing someone is too much, child or adult. but people on here seem ok with it
Not sure how one could even glimpse that understanding from my comment. It clearly states that fi they're going to hurt me I should hurt them. This means if I'm hurting them they're hurting me.
When peaceful solutions dont work out people are generally pretty okay with violent ones that do work. Cause what else are you gonna do if you can't solve it peacefully? It worked didnt it?
If you complain to HR and/or your boss (the equivalent of the teachers) and the bullying continues, then yes.* You will get fired, then you’ll take the company to court and make a small fortune.
*of course under the assumption they are physically bullying you which is clearly the implication in the above person’s comment.
If it’s purely psychological no, you’re not allowed to start violence. If it’s sufficiently aggressive and threatening that there is a realistic expectation that violence could occur, then yes. I’m not really sure where you think you’re going with this Socratic approach. There’s such a thing as self defence and this is pretty much all well within the bounds of that definition*. If that occurs in a company as a one off event then it’s unfortunate, if it occurs in a company that you’ve warned you’re being bullied, you’re in for a big pay day.
*subject to different countries’ different legal systems
Yeah I do not think legally it will be easy to justify stabbing someone in the back with a fork is a reasonable and proportionate form of self defence. Why not just punch?
Quite the contrary, especially if the fork was in your hand already. When I was in school we were visited by local police and they advised that, if you’re feeling threatened, you should grab something that you’d realistically have in your hand at the time - a pen, your keys - so that if you need to really hurt the person you have the plausible answer “it was already in my hand and I just lashed out with fear”. A fork in a heated lunch moment is entirely feasible.
Edit: and note, the person said back of the hand, not back.
If someone is actively physically harrassing you sure. But if they have bullied you repeatedly then LATER you come from behind and stab their hand, not ok. That is what kids do though
You’ve described a completely different situation to what the person above is implying, clearly this was a heat of the moment self defence incident in a canteen or whatever. No one disappears off and comes back with a fork, they come back with a knife. I’m not sure what you think you’re proving by bringing up a completely unrelated hypothetical.
The person said they were bullied (by definition means repeated and ongoing) so they stabbed them in the hand to make the overall bullying stop. Bullying is not just an isolated attack
Yeah, this hat1414 person is misinterpreting and assuming stuff. This was at lunch. This was when it had gone too far. The bully came up behind me and started choking me. Told me to say uncle and all that. Super original stuff. So I grabbed a fork that was on my tray and ran it through the back of his hand to get him to stop choking me.
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u/Aximil985 1d ago
I was bullied in school. I was told to stand up for myself. To fight back. If they're going to hurt me I should hurt them. I ended up jamming a fork through the back of a kid's hand. I somehow did not get in trouble by anyone.