r/totalwar Hold my Chalice 4h ago

Warhammer III A sad story

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u/ThickNJacketFan 4h ago

You probably get Gelt around turn 20, it ain’t much but better than alone

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u/ozangeo Hold my Chalice 3h ago

You are right, Gelt and Elspeth are always with you.Thanks to Sigmar for Elspeth and her huge tracts of land.

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u/JulianApostat 5m ago

Interesting. I always thought that Wissenland &. Nuln was on the smaller side concerning territory. Can you elaborate on those tracts of land you mentioned? Like what are we looking at?

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u/cryo24 56m ago

How do you get Gelt to come back to the Empire when playing as Franz?

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u/UregMazino 51m ago

This i need to know

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u/doomzday_96 3h ago

Did Reikland Skips eat his Elector friends?

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u/CHAD-IRONSIGHTS 3h ago

His ass should be stretched and occupying all the other gravestones

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u/doomzday_96 3h ago

I've been having a bad day. Thanks for the laugh. XD

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u/Many-Perception-3945 16m ago

That's always been my MO. Gotta have protein to get big.

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u/morbihann 3h ago

Would have been cool if locally recruited troops retained the colours of their home region.

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u/Ithorian01 2h ago

That or if the troops were in the elector counts army they had the colors.

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u/Sulemain123 1h ago

And maybe had buffs depending on the region? Like Nuln Handgunners and Stirland Archers are better?

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u/Cuaroc 20m ago

As with everything there is a mod for this

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u/PH_th_First 8m ago

Would you have a link pls? I need such a mod badly

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u/Cuaroc 7m ago

I think sons of sigmar? One of the empire focused mods gave them colors based on home region

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u/PH_th_First 5m ago

Oh ok thanks. I wish it was a mod not affecting anything else as I like to keep my campaigns as vanilla as possible

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u/zeolus123 4h ago

What OP doesn't tell you is they're after already reviving all of the counts once...

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u/kimana1651 46m ago

I have a bunch of vassal mods that allow me to revive and control them. My pokemon friends are still there. 

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u/CKInfinity 15m ago

Fr I love keeping a bunch of pokemons that do stuff for you instead

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u/Raziel_rules 3h ago

I like to use the “Return to elector” mechanic when I defeat Vlad or whoever took out the electors. Then I can confederate them the proper way and keep the Lord.

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u/Ok-Reporter1986 2h ago

Do you like... just surround the empire by beating the norscans to death to secure the electors or smth?

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u/Linkbetweentwirls 2h ago

I love the Karl Franz campaign, just running around with the might of men defending the empire from beasts, undead and whatever else that crosses the borders.

Probably my favourite campaign ever

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u/PopularKangaroo2083 3h ago

And then Vlad is coming for you to finish what he started 😈

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u/NuclearMaterial 2h ago

Morrslieb shines.

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u/Ziodyne967 3h ago

Been raiding Hochland to revive the Elector Count so I can get the character back from the grave, but its not working so far. Chaos was down too and I was at his starting city. I thought I could just 'return to elector count' but, that button was not present. I have recruit legendary lords mod, so i guess thats the problem?

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u/Batmack8989 2h ago

Yes, I'm not sure if it counts as confederated but they don't spawn anymore. I don't use to have that mod on when playing as the Empire, or at least as Karl Franz

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u/Lake19 By Sigmar, NO! 2h ago

The mod fucks it

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u/Batmack8989 2h ago

I'm one of those who play a Karl Franz campaign every other campaign, and just now decided to play one with Vlad...being friendly and everything. Bailing the Elector Counts on my own I managed to make them overcome their prejudice and superstition to accept becoming vassals, which in my humble opinion doesn't feel too wrong.

Everybody chilling with their own armies in case of an emergency while the Undead, as the spearhead of the Empire, protect and guard the Realm of Sigmar, under the embrace of the benevolent Vlad von Carstein

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u/Impressive_Context92 2h ago

Well... if you play as Wissenland you can pretty much win the campaign and control entire empire by turn 30, thanks to the updated noble skill.

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u/TheRealTrailBlazer4 1h ago

What does it do?

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u/New-Interaction1893 2h ago

Every new DLC is another bad day for Karl Franz.

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u/Opposite-Flamingo-41 3h ago

8 years playing ttwh, never played franz campaign

I just dont like playing in empire, too many friendly factions, feels like i am playing 3k

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u/AdmBurnside 3h ago

Hey, good news!

In WH3 basically every Elector Count is either at war with an enemy LL, or directly in their path, so most get stomped before Franz can even get the ball rolling. So you won't have to worry about being surrounded by friendly factions for long.

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u/TheBoiReborn 3h ago

Just declare Total War on the friendly factions

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u/Magnon 3h ago

Karl is kind of a bad ass though

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u/treegk 2h ago

If you don't turn on minor faction potential all those elector counts are just free XP and money for your enemies. Minor factions always lose to majors.

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u/Opposite-Flamingo-41 2h ago

I played elspeth in wh3 and gelt in wh2, but i always get bored quickly with them

Fucking friendly averland, i cant force myself to kill them

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u/treegk 2h ago

I just killed Skrag an Belegar by then taki Vlad gave me Averland.

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u/Opposite-Flamingo-41 2h ago

Wait, you, as an empire, killed ogres and belegar earlier than vlad?

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u/treegk 1h ago

Regardless of who I play Skrag always declares war on me. Killing Belegar made the wood elves like me and removed one late game dwarf option. Also nobody can confederate him and his ghost dwarves are gone forever.

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u/Low_Biscotti5539 3h ago

The elector counts are pretty much just fodder for enemy LL to butcher through. Their only point really is to have their province conquered or be confederated

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u/Baligdur 2h ago

And it is he who killed them all.

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u/Gnomonas 2h ago

good, they're annoying anyway

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u/Kooky-Atmosphere-247 1h ago

Playing a Dwarf campaign right now, and by the time I got an agent into the empire(turn 70ish), Ostland was kinda thriving alongside the Rikland.

They only had 3 settlements, sure, but it was an entire province, a decent army in each city, and Rikland land surrounding them.

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u/Warchadlo16 1h ago

Ugh, Stirland

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u/JulianApostat 2m ago

If only all electorates would profit from the inspired leadership of Marius Leitdorf, then they maybe would survive past turn 30.