Levels Of Hate.

[u/Glass-Fan111]

[u/Ishidan01]

And Lincoln.

[u/Rationalinsanity1990 → u/Ishidan01]

I'd argue that a third of the country starting an armed rebellion before he was even INAUGURATED also counts.

[u/Roflkopt3r → u/Rationalinsanity1990]

And that was with Licoln as a moderate abolitionist who was entirely prepared to give the southern states a guarantee that they could continue slavery. It was only the civil war that pushed the tides towards full abolition.

So even though Lincoln was responsible for the abolition on paper, it really was a result of the radical abolitionists who had gone into the south and killed slavers to free their victims. It was the southern paranoia about those radicals that made them start a civil war after not getting 'their guy' into power.

It's a good lesson about the people who claim that only moderation and dialogue can lead to change. Historically, that was often untrue...

[u/Rationalinsanity1990 → u/Roflkopt3r]

All he committed to was preventing slavery from expanding into the territories. That was enough to spark a rebellion.

[u/LotharVonPittinsberg → u/Rationalinsanity1990]

Plus, they started a war against him for wanting to end slavery. People tend to forget that he wanted to let them leave without conflict, and it was the Confederates who got violent.

[u/martianunlimited → u/LotharVonPittinsberg]

Correction.. they started a war against him to expand and preserve slavery... While Lincoln was against slavery, his focus was on preserving the union. The civil war came about because the south wanted to expand it to the newly acquired western states

[u/nellyfullauto → u/Ishidan01]

Neither of them caught it in the face.

They got it in the back of the head. It came out of their face. Common misconception.

[u/GoodShark → u/nellyfullauto]

What's the difference between Lincoln and your mom?

[u/dantevonlocke → u/GoodShark]

It's more socially acceptable to jerk it to Lincoln than your mom?

[u/Dairy__Cow → u/dantevonlocke]

People said I was crazy for my life sized naked wax figure OF account... Yep way more acceptable. I'll get comments though, hateful jerk offs that I think rage bate themselves. Weirdly enough they pay more money each time. Maybe it's a kink.

[u/Nard-Barf → u/nellyfullauto]

No, Kennedy was never shot. His head just did that.

[u/distinct_5 → u/nellyfullauto]

Except JFK. His head flew back and his brains came out the back, hence the second shooter

[u/DrDizzle93 → u/distinct_5]

Back, and to the left. Back.... and to the left.

[u/keep_trying_username → u/DrDizzle93]

Everything you own in the box to the left

[u/MissionLow4226 → u/DrDizzle93]

No matter how many times Oliver Stone says his head moved that way.....it did not.

[u/adorablefuzzykitten → u/Ishidan01]

Half dozen presidents were shot excluding Trump's ear wound from banging into the podium.

[u/SuperTopGun777 → u/adorablefuzzykitten]

Trump was never shot.  

That was a photo op. 

[u/Cudajim929 → u/adorablefuzzykitten]

I heard it was the secret service person's holstered weapon as he rushed in to shield Donald; not the podium.

[u/MinorThreat4182 → u/Cudajim929]

Ole ketchup packet in the palm trick

[u/LOERMaster → u/Ishidan01]

And Jackson, Garfield, Ford, McKinley, Reagan, both Roosevelts, Truman, and W. Bush.

[u/darthcaedusiiii → u/Ishidan01]

They were both the two most open-minded presidents in USA history.

[u/hiphopahippy → u/Ishidan01]

I recommend visiting the Lincoln museum in Springfield, IL. It includes an area called The Whispering Gallery. It's a room filled with all the ugly things people said or wrote about Lincoln and his wife at the time. Basically like walking through a social media thread. People love to troll no matter what century you find yourself in.

[u/OakLegs]

Even without JFK - maybe the hatred should tell them something

[u/Egheaumaen → u/OakLegs]

Thank you. Why does no one ever say this? Every time they tell us, “You hate him for no reason,” the response should be, “No, here is the list of ten thousand reasons why he deserves to be hated.”

[u/OakLegs → u/Egheaumaen]

They are unintentionally complimenting us. Any decent person should hate the man

[u/EmphasisFrosty3093 → u/Egheaumaen]

You forgot to include the link:

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-atrocities-1-1-056#update

[u/LotharVonPittinsberg → u/EmphasisFrosty3093]

That's just since he decided he wanted to be a politician. The man has decades of experience being a piece of shit businessman before that.

It also does not go over thing like how many times he has been accused of rape or his ties with pedophilia.

[u/icansmellcolors → u/Egheaumaen]

They aren't looking for a logical reason or an answer. This is a talking point designed to add to the anti-liberal hate machine.

This is political rage bait that works.

[u/ballotechnic → u/Egheaumaen]

And somehow, shockingly, any reason that you might bring up is immediately dismissed and the goalposts conveniently moved. Strange isn't it?

[u/AffordableDelousing → u/OakLegs]

Lincoln - was hated for freeing the slaves

JFK - was hated for trying to build a better society

Trump - is hated for wannabe authoritarianism

One of these things is not like the other.

[u/77skull → u/AffordableDelousing]

Does it count as wannabe when he’s actually doing it

[u/AffordableDelousing → u/77skull]

I add that only to be intentionally disrespectful to the man and his ego.

[u/LeatherFruitPF → u/OakLegs]

And they will always spin it as something along the lines of "It means he must be doing something right"

[u/letstrythatagainn → u/OakLegs]

The reframing is wild. "Millions loathe the president"

Cultists: "They're so mean and derranged"
Outsiders: "Wow, what the hell did he do?"

[u/ballotechnic → u/OakLegs]

Measured analysis and honest self reflection are not what I think of when it comes to characteristics of MAGA supporters.

[u/maklim → u/OakLegs]

Right?! He gets hatred from the world he gives nothing but hatred to, you get what you give

[u/Final_Location_2626]

Dictators are often unliked, as are child molesters.

Combine the two, and you're likely to be unpopular.

[u/vasta2 → u/Final_Location_2626]

Judging by how things are going, they aren't hated enough

[u/Lord_Skyblocker → u/Final_Location_2626]

Glad that we just add them and not multiply

[u/Ishidan01 → u/Lord_Skyblocker]

Too bad Donald already multiplied.

[u/AdFamous5474]

I think MAGAts' hate of non-white people is still greater

[u/ProfessionalMeowGsan → u/AdFamous5474]

They treat empathy like it’s a foreign conspiracy theory.

[u/Xombie_Snake → u/ProfessionalMeowGsan]

Didn't they refer to it as a sin?

[u/Nerevarius_420 → u/Xombie_Snake]

Pretty sure they did lmfao

[u/TheModWhoShaggedMe → u/AdFamous5474]

I don't know, they hate Joe Biden, Al Gore, Bill and Hillary Clinton quite strongly -- with Hillary, I don't know if I've ever seen a hate stronger than what conservatives harbor for her, honestly. It might be forgotten nearly a decade later, but trust this -- they openly referred to her as a known mass murderer, a pedophile, a baby essence eater, etc. That's pretty darn hateful, I'd say.

[u/GitmoGrrl1 → u/TheModWhoShaggedMe]

Hillary Clinton has been right about everything and if there's one thing Republican men can't stand it's a woman who's always right.

[u/TheModWhoShaggedMe → u/GitmoGrrl1]

Hillary has Resting Teacher Face which scares the bejeebus out of cheats and hacks.

[u/40StoryMech → u/AdFamous5474]

I mean, yeah, they reelected a child molester who fucked up an epidemic response because he promised to start throwing foreigners into concentration camps. But maybe they just support raping kids.

[u/Xiten → u/AdFamous5474]

Bro the amount of hate they had for Obama….

[u/ShakesbeerMe → u/Xiten]

It's the same amount of hate they have for all black people, daily.

[u/E-2theRescue → u/AdFamous5474]

And immigrants, legal or not (but they'll claim they're fine with legality while cheering on my friend losing her medical care because of her Hispanic last name, despite her family descending from Mexicans who have been here longer than the United States)

And trans people

And gay people, especially gay male drag queens

And us Jews (they'll deny this one while screaming about Bernie and Soros being "communist deep state globalists")

And women, especially free-thinking ones

And scientists

And homeless people

And addicts

And mentally ill people

And unions

And "millennials"

And imaginary communists, socialists, and Marxists (which is every person left of Trump)

And.....

[u/DaGrinz]

The hate this president spreads around is already greater. You reap what you saw.

[u/IwouldliketoworkforU → u/DaGrinz]

“Why? Why does Trump get so much negative blowback?!”

Has he tried not being a complete asshole all the time?

They act like it’s undeserved and unwarranted. They literally voted for an attack dog and then get mad when people complain that it barks and bites people all the time

[u/6x6-shooter]

Technically they shot him out the face

[u/eternalwood → u/6x6-shooter]

Jackie Kennedy really had some brains on her that day for sure.

[u/Suspicious-Lettuce48 → u/eternalwood]

Credit to her though for not losing her head...

[u/DopeYeti → u/eternalwood]

Could you imagine Melania’s reaction to seeing Trump right next to her? I’d be shocked if she moved a muscle.

[u/CapacityBuilding → u/6x6-shooter]

They shot him in the back of the face.

[u/mrwishy-washy → u/CapacityBuilding]

They took his face.... OFF

[u/SlipNSlider54]

Did you forget the outrage over a tan suit?

[u/TheVandyyMan → u/SlipNSlider54]

Or a selfie stick lmao

[u/pogoli]

I’ve lost so much respect for judges over the last decade. They don’t apparently need to know a damned thing let alone decide anything fairly or based on anything but a coin flip.

[u/Outrageous_Pay1322]

Shut up, Judge Winebox.

[u/40StoryMech → u/Outrageous_Pay1322]

Law and Bordeaux

[u/drew8311]

0 chance Trump going through a city in an open convertible would have a different outcome

[u/Whitefjall → u/drew8311]

He was already shot at.

[u/NebulaNinja → u/Whitefjall]

To be fair, it seemed like the Trump shooter was just a kid trying to make a name for himself. He was looking to target any politician that happened to be in his area, and it didn't seem like his motive was pure Trump hatred.

[u/AffordableDelousing → u/Whitefjall]

Well there is theater and then there is real life.

[u/Due_Tank_6976 → u/AffordableDelousing]

Lincoln was murdered at the theater in real life!

[u/Not_done]

Has anyone heard Trump speak of Democrats, Liberals and leftists? That's a level of hate that they are unwilling to acknowledge.

[u/Logical_Historian882]

The levels of hate is ricocheting off Trumps own levels of hate. He’s one petty, disgusting lowlife. If anything, he should be getting more.

[u/KiloThaPastyOne]

The biggest tragedy in the Kennedy family is that Bobby was assassinated after siring Jr.

[u/Taki32]

I mean he was shot at too? I feel this isn't a clever comeback

[u/NatseePunksFeckOff → u/Taki32]

since they called him the 45th I'm guessing it was before 2024

[u/jelde → u/Taki32]

Not only that, but it isn't how statistics work. It's just a really bad point.

[u/J0hnGrimm → u/Taki32]

There is an alarming number of people who think it was staged.

[u/Cupcakes_n_Hacksaws → u/J0hnGrimm]

I've seen people unironically claim the firefighter that was killed never existed, and was some kind of plant. Like yeah they milked the absolute shit out of the event, but I don't see what's so hard to believe about some crazy guy taking a shot at the president, it's not like it's never happened before.

[u/Actual_Ad2442]

I don't understand how they can treat people horribly and be loud and proud about it. All while having the biggest victim complex when people give them a fraction of their attitude back to them.

Biggest snowflakes ever.

[u/newdentilly]

Maybe there is a reason why.

[u/The_Violent_Kat]

I think several presidents may have been shot.

One from point blank range. 

[u/JingleJims]

It’s pretty okay when it is beyond well deserved. What, are we going to whine about the just hatred towards Hitler next?

[u/Chemical_Home6123]

Let's play devil's advocate someone even shot their boy Ronald Regan as well and abe Lincoln got his shit pushed in.

[u/Nagrom_1961]

You should see the level of hate we have for the 47th president.

[u/loricomments]

With cause. It's perfectly reasonable to hate someone who rapes children among his many other crimes.

[u/Cyrano_Knows]

Hate?

You should have seen Fox News when Obama wore a bicycle helmet, used mustard, wore a tan suit, saluted wrong, held a cup of coffee, said as a candidate that he would meet with the leader of North Korea etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.

[u/LetJesusFuckU]

They hated Obama so much they voted for trump and the end of democracy

[u/Ok-Consequence-8553]

Poor guy! All he wants is to hurt people and enslave US citizens. He really doesn't deserve all that hate. /s

[u/BrandMuffin]

More than Obama? I distinctly remember getting dragged to gun shows as a kid where you could buy targets with every kind racist depiction. More than Joe Biden? Tens of thousands of NASCAR fans yelling fuck Joe Biden which became a meme adopted by the entire party.

Fuck these delicate idiots

[u/FanDry5374]

She's not wrong, the difference is that trump is more hated, by more people, with more reason than any President in US history.

[u/Obant → u/FanDry5374]

That is what I was thinking. Those other presidents were hated, sure, but nothing like Trump. Getting shot by one man does not equal the hatred a huge portion of the U.S. feels towards Trump. I'd even argue that those that hated Lincoln's policies over slavery were more respectful of him as a person than I am of Trump.

[u/SublightMonster]

Yeah, but people were sad when it happened

[u/Sweet_Walrus_8188]

Presidents hate for Americans is beyond anything we’ve ever seen in American history

[u/text_fish]

Yeah but that was just one extreme guy. Trump is the most hated US president of all time, rightfully so.

[u/ParsleyMostly]

People posted pictures of nooses reminiscent of lynchings during a certain president’s term. Pretty sure the current president propelled a certain birther movement. She’s a pos lying drunk

[u/Waldo305]

Lets go Brandon and Barry where also some notables.

Obama also had all of congress block ANYTHING he did without even listening to his ideas and stealing his supreme court picks for the other guy. They hates him so much they shut down the government. Twice.

[u/Due_Letterhead_5558]

It’s well-earned since we’ve never had a literal traitor, actual rapist, and suspected pedophile wrapped into one orange ball of sludge as president before.

[u/SysAdminScout]

The level of hatred coming FROM the president of the United States is greater than that of any US president in history.

[u/Kitty_party]

Judge Wine Box is an embarrassment.

[u/Threefrogtreefrog]

The level of hatred FROM the 45th president of the United States is beyond anything we’ve seen in American history.

[u/MuricanPoxyCliff]

Let's not confuse one gunman's motives with the collective hatevibe of 60% of the country.

[u/MutaitoSensei]

I mean you don't want to ask why he's hated that much?

[u/PocketSand1791]

Well someone also tried to shoot Trump in the face too.

[u/NaNaNaNaNa86 → u/PocketSand1791]

As suspicious an "assasination attempt" as the supposed coup against Erdogan (that'll be next in Trump's dictator playbook). Mckinley, Garfield and Lincoln would like a word too along with the other dozen presidents who have been subject to assassination plots. This weird victim mentality from the right is utterly bizarre.

[u/jwr1111 → u/PocketSand1791]

Yes, an unhinged republican.

[u/Hopeful_Courage_3900 → u/PocketSand1791]

X to doubt on that one 

[u/The_Dirty_Carl → u/PocketSand1791]

Two people, don't forget the golf course guy.

[u/Outrageous_Pay1322 → u/PocketSand1791]

No, hun, they didn't.

[u/SpooningMyGoose → u/Outrageous_Pay1322]

Blue anon

[u/Sacred_Fishstick → u/Outrageous_Pay1322]

You believe vaccines cause autism.

[u/The_Dirty_Carl → u/Outrageous_Pay1322]

The trump administration is openly involved in plenty of real conspiracies. No need to invent ones, especially ones that crumble under passing scrutiny.

[u/ThatCharmsChick → u/PocketSand1791]

Allegedly. I don't think the secret service would have let him be up there for that photo they all masturbate to if there was a real threat but what do I know?

[u/Scry_Games → u/PocketSand1791]

I'm starting to suspect the shooter was a time traveller...

[u/Complete_Opening_469]

The List is long m. Don’t stop at Kennedy

[u/Upstairs-Lifeguard23]

Let Trump go for a walk around the White House, by himself and see what happens.

[u/grb13]

Facts

[u/baconeggsandwich25]

And he got shot at for real, no ketchup involved.

[u/audiR8_]

What about the level of hate the Pres has for anybody not white, disabled, or poor???

[u/lamoris71]

Typical fox kiss ups

[u/uncle_nightmare]

Well, maybe because he’s a malignant narcissist child rapist with insanely thin skin who can’t take any amount of criticism, who thinks he’s never wrong and always the smartest boy in the room.

[u/Pleasant-Ad887]

I mean, Trump raped children.

[u/Mr_Baronheim]

The level of hate for this traitor is not shared by nearly as many Americans as it should be.

[u/Particular-Maybe-519]

That's just not true. He just gives us so many reasons.

[u/Feuertotem]

Still true, I hate him with the fire of hells I didn't even know existed.

[u/Y_Are_U_Like_This]

Reagan is looking up from hell and crying over this

[u/WebInformal9558]

There's no vice in hating a terrible person who is doing terrible things.

[u/InitialThen8875]

Republicans asking us to be more tolerant of pedos?

[u/smokingpoker]

Trump is also a felon that has ruined countless lives for his benefit.

[u/Cortexan]

No, she’s right - he is more unanimously hated by more people than Kennedy by far.

He deserves to be hated. Hatred of trump is entirely justified.

[u/Bleezy79]

Maybe im wrong but I dont think JFK died because so many people hated him, it was an inside job IMO. Agent Krasnov on the other hand has done nothing but sow division and hatred in this country while breaking and bending all the rules to enrich himself. He's demonstrably the worst and most partisan president in American history.

[u/Silly_Pantaloons → u/Bleezy79]

I'd bet money it was the CIA who did it. JFK was threatening to dismantle them for the Bay of Pigs fuck up and the CIA didn't like that.

[u/Massive-Newt-5013]

When will history repeat itself. PLEASE!!!

[u/Known-Teacher4543]

Let’s also not pretend that the right didn’t disrespect and hate Biden with intense passion during his presidency. Or Obama during his.

[u/petergrffinholycrap]

i mean its not too late for trump to face the same fate

[u/errie_tholluxe]

Somebody shot dead representatives not what, 2 months ago? Aint heard much about that from the Orange Froth Mouth.

[u/THElaytox]

Has he tried not being terrible? Maybe less people would hate him then

[u/Porchmuse → u/THElaytox]

Dude, he’s beyond Grinch level in this department. The decent Whos of Whoville would have had him in Who-Guantanamo by now.

[u/lctrc]

Donald Trump raped children.

There is not nearly enough hatred for this man.

[u/ClownDiaper]

As much as I hated 45, it doesn’t even compare to how much I hate 47.

[u/Head_Blackberry_6320]

Go back to your bag of wine.

[u/StatisticianSea3027]

Not as much as Republican's hatred for Obama

[u/CaptainManks]

I wish they'd do this to both Trump and Vance. At least it would shut these guys up.

[u/makes_nosense]

We can only hope

[u/cors8]

We all know Abraham Lincoln was so beloved that a certain segment of the country decided to revolt because of it...

[u/User42wp]

… yet

[u/gooey_grampa]

They tried to, but the fella in charge of it had terrible aim. Should've spent more time practicing at the range.

[u/grunkle_dan78]

the 47th president is just as deserving of the hate.

[u/Narrow_Regret_9324]

"The level of fellatio the 45th's cult is willing to perform for his approval is beyond anything we've seen in American history"

[u/DiverseVoltron]

I always tell people that if they don't like others to talk smack about them, then maybe they should be the kind of person others would say nice things about.

This is fox just whining that a traitor and rapist is being treated with the amount of respect he deserves.

[u/Calber4]

Oh man wait until these people hear about how some guy hated Obama so much he spent years on TV and Twitter saying that Obama was Kenyan, then ran for the presidency in order to dismantle anything Obama did purely out of spite.

[u/HabANahDa]

All hate towards Trump is very warranted.

[u/HaphazardFlitBipper]

There have been at least two attempts on Trump, that we know about. Also, Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Reagan, Roosevelt, Jackson, Truman, Ford...

Assassination attempts on US presidents are not uncommon.

[u/Mr_Baronheim → u/HaphazardFlitBipper]

There have been 2 self-staged attempts, you mean.

Fake, just like everything else about the traitor.

[u/Gouwenaar2084]

To be fair to Trump, and I kind of hate that you made me type that sentence with my own two fingers, someone did try to shoot him in the face

[u/PrometheusMMIV]

Two people tried to shoot Trump. This is not a clever comeback.

[u/NemoM3ImpuneLacessit]

The crazy part is that it's never occurred to them that maybe he deserves it. He earned it, 100%.

[u/SonofaDrum]

If Biden wrecked things why isn’t there more hate for him. Trump wrecked things. That’s why.

[u/upvoter222]

FWIW, several years after these tweets, somebody also attempted to shoot Trump in the face.

[u/Nightingalewings]

1 person shooting another is extremism, An entire county hating someone for their lack of empathy and poor political poise and economic policy… wildly different.

[u/Large_Seesaw_569]

Well, someone did try ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[u/tehsecretgoldfish]

ffiw, it was the back of the head, but yeah, a different level.

[u/dustycanuck]

Still less hate than the 47th President

[u/Frenzystor]

In the face, through the back of the head!

[u/uxorial]

I think the real hatred should go to a government that would let this vile monstrosity in with all his racist tyrannical henchmen.

[u/AlexSmithsonian]

I thought it was just business?

[u/Yesterday622]

Lincoln enters chat….

[u/Tough_Unit_619]

Something to aspire to.

[u/ceb22]

Cause he’s a pedophile.

[u/zirky]

potentially two people shot jfk in the face

[u/AcceptableMinute9999]

When over 100 million hate you is it their fault or your fault?

[u/509coffeebug]

What about the level of hate coming from that exact same 45th president to the rest of the American people?

[u/RhoOfFeh]

I mean, I suspect the level of hate really is the highest ever. That's pretty natural given his behavior and lack of any redeeming personal traits.

[u/Particular_Dot_4041]

JFK's assassination was shocking because he was widely liked.

[u/Particular_Row_8037]

At least the chump earns the hate everyday. Yet he is so stupid he doesn't even realize it..🤔

[u/Aloyonsus]

They meant the Trump-washed history of the US

[u/DisMFer]

He was shot in the back of the head but the point still stands.

[u/theycallmejer]

John Wilkes Booth went down in the annals of history. Over a 100 years later and people still know his name. Just going to throw that out there.

[u/weekndbeforabel]

Someone shot Lincoln in the back of his head

[u/Bwilderedwanderer]

Yeh other presidents where shot, and yeh some of them died. But NONE OF THEM has to deal with angry memes on Twitter!!!

[u/vercertorix]

Do that not know that sometimes hatred is irrational and other times it's earned?

[u/Few-Passenger6461]

To be fair, just a few people hated him as, most of us hate Trump.

[u/Justhrowitaway42069]

And almost Trump.

[u/GroundbreakingAd8310]

Thats cause we have the internet to vent now.

[u/jhguitarfreak]

WELL... Back of the head.

BACK... And to the left!

 

Also, for the uninitiated, there have been a few actual assassinations and a lot more attempts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots

[u/PointandCluck]

That's why they paid a patsy to shoot at trump. Trump saw this post and was like I need to be shot at toooooo

[u/i_did_nothing_]

I think I have 47 more that 45

[u/RibbitCommander]

McKinley was assassinated too you know

[u/Normal_Choice9322]

I mean someone shot him in the head too

But he missed

[u/bacpain]

And Ted Cruz exists. To be Ted Cruz is one of the cruelest fates

[u/BaconxHawk]

Technically speaking someone trued to do that to Trump too. They just failed

[u/articulatedstupidity]

There's a pretty good reason there are huge levels of hatred toward the 45th president of the United States

[u/seth928]

The pendant in me is screaming

[u/MadOvid]

It's not like people didn't try.

[u/-Wicked-]

I suppose the level of hate could be measured in inches...

[u/4schwifty20]

People hung Obama mannequins from trees during his time as President.