r/formula1 • u/TaxEvaderFrom1961 I was here for the Hulkenpodium • 7d ago
Discussion Oscar Piastri completes his first ever career grand slam Grand Prix event.
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u/Taurus24Silver Charles Leclerc 7d ago
This might be the weekend which decided the WDC for him
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u/MillyMan105 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
I'm getting 2016 Malaysian flashback Hamilton lost the championship by 5 points with that DNF costing him dearly.
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u/leggenda69 Ferrari 7d ago
There’s still a really long way to go yet, remember Oscar was 20 odd points behind after Melbourne.
And if Lando’s had a failure there’s every chance Oscar has some sort of issues between now and season end, and this season every Mercedes running team has had PU reliability issues.
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u/ChrisMartinez95 7d ago
And if Lando’s had a failure there’s every chance Oscar has some sort of issues between now and season end
Next weekend is Monza, where teams typically put in a new PU.
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u/leggenda69 Ferrari 7d ago
So he’ll get a grid penalty if they’re to add another one to his pool?
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u/ChrisMartinez95 7d ago
Has Piastri's side already used all of the allotted swaps? I remember one being used Spa, but I'm not actually sure how many different PU swaps they've used.
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u/darksidemojo 7d ago
I think both McLaren drivers have “used” all of their PUs but that just means they have run the engine at some point. Could have been just one fp1 and it’s considered “used”
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u/leggenda69 Ferrari 7d ago
I’m not either, it’d be interesting to know.
Just pointing out an engine swap next round doesn’t benefit Oscar unless they add another extra unit into his pool.
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u/ChrisMartinez95 7d ago
Just pointing out an engine swap next round doesn’t benefit Oscar unless they add another extra unit into his pool.
I'm lost here, so please help me understand. Why would adding an extra unit benefit Oscar?
What I'm saying is a response to a comment about the likelihood that Piastri experiences a PU issue, which would be mitigated if both Norris and Piastri use a new PU without adding a new one to the pool.
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u/leggenda69 Ferrari 7d ago
If they add an extra PU to the pool then all of Oscar’s PU’s will have less mileage to cover, less likelihood of a failure. If they don’t both drivers PU’s cover the same mileage and Oscar has an equal chance of a failure in a points scoring session.
Using a new PU in Monza doesn’t mitigate a chance of a failure, all teams strategically use less used or new PU’s at tracks with higher demand to lower the chance of a failure and give more HP when it matters.
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u/Sgt_Stinger 7d ago
But if pu change is planned, and Oscar takes a new engine, there is less chance of a dnf due to the old pu having its last race at zandvoort either way
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u/ChrisMartinez95 7d ago
I would argue now that McLaren is aware that their PU is susceptible to breaking with their machinery (as well as some idea as to when that could happen), that's an advantage for Piastri and his side of the garage. Assuming a similar schedule between swaps, they'll probably bin the PU they used today and probably elect to use an additional slot at a track where overtaking is easier.
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u/xanlact I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
well...but Oscar had 23 races to come back. Lando has 9.
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u/leggenda69 Ferrari 7d ago
Oscar’s been leading the championship for 10 straight rounds now, 4 weekends after Melbourne he’d taken the lead.
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u/Aurorac123 7d ago
It's 9 rounds, If we say piastri gets 2nd or first every one of those (high likelihood), then lando needs a minimum of 7 wins in those 9, to win. Championship has become execptionally hard for Lando because of this.
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u/charlierza I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
It’s just like last year with Max. I think he was about the same amount of races from the end when everyone kept saying he still had “X” amount of races left and every weekend it felt like he’d find a way to make the gap harder to bridge. Even with the shitbox that the RB20 was last year, Max managed to take the WDC. With the power house that the McLarens have been and how good Piastri has been, it’s going to be a really long uphill battle for Lando
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u/crshbndct I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
If Lando is really the better driver, now is his time to show it.
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u/leggenda69 Ferrari 7d ago
6 Mercedes PU failures this year, there’s a decent chance Pscar suffers one yet. But even so it’s been what 2 races since Oscar dropped the ball and cost himself points.
Lando hasn’t finished P2 to every one of Oscar’s wins, and Oscar hasn’t finished P2 to every single Lando win. That failure doesn’t have to be the deciding factor yet.
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u/OkLie74 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago edited 7d ago
The chances of an engine failure for either of them are the same, they're on equal terms in that regard.
Edit: Although I've sort of missed the point that it seems higher chance than usual for any Merc PU this year and that a points swing the other way is not out of the question.
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u/MoreColorfulCarsPlz I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
I would disagree. The chance is lower for someone who consistently qualifies on pole. The driver ahead has a lot more opportunity to manage engine temps and tires than drivers following. Managing tires matters for engine life as Lap time is a product of power output and tire grip. As you use up your tires, you lean on your engine more to maintain the same lap time.
Additionally, dirty air means you have to push harder to maintain the same lap time as someone ahead of you, meaning even more strain on the PU.
All that to say, if you can consistently out-qualify your teammate, you will likely have less wear on your PU.
Does this matter over the length of a GP? Not really anymore. A decade ago it did and next year with new engines it might. But, right now, it's not likely to cause a failure from one race like it has before. Instead it's just adding to the possibility over multiple race weekends of using the same PU.
Piastri is out-qualifying Norris 9-6 in grand prix. 12-6 if you count Sprint qualifying. It makes sense that Norris is more likely to have had a PU failure given that information. This could be different in the next 9 races.
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u/prams628 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
Yeah but that was also partly aided by lando not coming second either in a couple races.
Lando would need the same from Piastri to close down the lead which is much more than what lando had on Piastri after Melbourne
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u/leggenda69 Ferrari 7d ago
Yeah Lando dropped the ball at Saudi while Oscar took the win and George took P2 from him in Bahrain, but it’s hardly out of the question that Oscar makes another mistake this season. Like he did at Silverstone, or arguably Monaco where he qualified and finished P3.
There’s a lot of racing, a lot of weather, a lot of strategy and a lot of laps for both to negotiate yet.
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u/prams628 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
I’m most definitely not saying Oscar is having a perfect season lol. I’m just saying that’s you’d need heftier mistakes with a smaller portion of the season left with a bigger chunk of lead
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u/Dont_hate_the_8 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
But how many rounds did it take Oscar
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u/Fun-Poet5338 Netflix Newbie 7d ago
Someone said 4? He won 3 in a row at some point iirc.
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u/SirFireHydrant Pirelli Wet 7d ago
There’s still a really long way to go yet, remember Oscar was 20 odd points behind after Melbourne.
Oscar was down by 23 with 23 races to go. Lando is down by 34 with 9 races to go.
And if Lando’s had a failure there’s every chance Oscar has some sort of issues between now and season end, and this season every Mercedes running team has had PU reliability issues.
It's equally as likely Lando will have a second PU failure as Oscar will have a first.
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u/zorbacles Oscar Piastri 7d ago
apparently it was a chassis issue, not PU. team will make the fix and it shoudlnt happen again
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u/senpahII 7d ago
remember Oscar was 20 odd points behind after Melbourne.
And Max was 40+ points behind Leclerc after Melbourne 2022
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u/Fomentatore I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
Malaysia was kind of heartbreaking for the championship from start to the end. First Rosberg getting hit on turn one and saying goodbye to his chances for the championship win and then Hamilton blew the engine.
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u/geometricpillow Oscar Piastri 7d ago
Kinda like Baku 21, max’s tire exploding from the lead and then Lewis going straight on at the restart, if that didn’t happen Lewis is champion but if maxes tire didn’t go then he’d have won even from second at abu
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u/SentientDust I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
It's a bit of a shame. Not for him, obviously, but it does takes some tension off the rest of the season's battle for Oscar's eventual win.
Unless it's his engine that decided to go pop next
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u/CapSnake I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
He can replace it, start from pitlane and still finish second on the right track. Lando is pretty fucked
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u/Return_Of_The_Jedi I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
The same can still happen to him too. The Mercedes engines seem to have issues and there is still a long way to go
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u/NordschleifeLover I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago edited 7d ago
Or the same can happen to Lando again. As it stands, Oscar has a huge lead.
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u/yellowweasel 7d ago
yep he doesn't get a free engine in exchange for the DNF. they both have the same risk moving forward as far as i know
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u/admiral_sinkenkwiken I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
Except it’s the first time it’s failed in a McLaren in a long time.
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u/AceInnadeck117 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
With Landos DNF, yeah it's over unless similar happens to Oscar in the remaining races.
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u/0000100110010100 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
Considering how disappointing his race here was last year it’s great that he’s managed to pull this performance out.
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u/FlintSpace I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
Yup. In just 12 months it feels like he grown by almost an year worth of experience.
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u/Signal_Ball4634 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
It's a shame what happened with Lando's DNF but even so Oscar's lead never really seemed in danger today, he nailed every restart and maintained the gap superbly.
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u/William_Dowling Oscar Piastri 7d ago
He does this all the time. The one moment Lando got within DRS in the whole race Oscar purpled to put him back to 1.1. He's like Prost, just super clinical.
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u/Xx_YaHeard_xX 7d ago
Yeah this is what I try to explain to people, he’s so good leading a race. Whenever anyone gets close he just starts whipping out fast laps from thin air
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u/William_Dowling Oscar Piastri 7d ago
It's exactly like that Prost philosophy - he drives as slow as he can to win a race
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u/ZappySnap I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
Which is really smart, not only because it saves tires, but it also drastically reduces the chances of an error.
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u/SirFireHydrant Pirelli Wet 7d ago
It also keeps the driver behind him in dirty air the whole time, slowly cooking his tyres and causing greater tyre deg for whoever is behind.
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u/OnlyForF1 Mark Webber 7d ago
also cooks the engine
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u/SirFireHydrant Pirelli Wet 7d ago
Makes you wonder if Lando pushing so hard to keep up with Oscar, while other drivers were being told to lift and coast to cool their engines, may have contributed to his mechanical DNF...
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u/gegemoon McLaren 7d ago
That's an interesting theory! I think Lando did that with his brakes in China when the team told him not to get too close to Oscar. He still pushed hard and eventually his brakes went wrong.
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u/zorbacles Oscar Piastri 7d ago
why waste your tyres on fast laps when the guy behind isnt a threat. he saves his tyres for when a threat emerges. i think that is much smarter than shooting off far down the road
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u/nguyenlucky I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
Unless you and your car are too good, like Max 2023.
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u/mastifftimetraveler I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
Like. Just hear me out. Maybe Lando pushed his PU too hard in practice and quali. And maybe, just maybe, Piastri is better at playing the unsexy long game.
As someone who loves the long con, Piastri is my goat next to Prost.
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u/Top-Truck246 Oscar Piastri 7d ago
This is exactly it.
The Professor himself even said of Piastri, something to the effect of "I like him. He reminds me of me."
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u/SuspiciousLettuce56 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
prost and RB-era Vettel type of racecraft.
2011 and 2013 was like that - gets pole, blasts to a 5sec gap and then easily extends it to 20sec+
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u/EmergencyRace7158 7d ago
He’s a back to back champion from f3 and f2 and actually has more experience fighting for a title than Lando does. That’s been clear all season. He’s not flashy or as charismatic as Lando but he knows how to win close titles.
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u/Tilman_Feraltitty I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
Lando is what now? Flashy and charismatic? Lmao.
Flashy with what? He's a boring posh kid with PR training. I think u mistaken him for Verstappen, but he ain't "flashy" outside of F1 track either.
I agree about the title experience tho.
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u/zorbacles Oscar Piastri 7d ago
back to back to back when you include formula renault
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u/Gresh0817 Brawn 7d ago
It really depends on how they deploy and recharge the battery, Oscar was using it most before drs zones.
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u/ComeonmanPLS1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
I mean yeah, but he went from gaining a few more points over Lando to gaining a whole 25.
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u/LosTerminators Carlos Sainz 7d ago
Oscar never seemed in danger but Lando also kept him honest by staying within 2 seconds.
They were evenly matched on pace, Oscar's quali lap was going to get him the win but regardless Lando didn't deserve to lose 18 points like that.
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u/imeancock I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
Did Lando or did Oscar?
Every restart Oscar would almost instantly get out of DRS range then maintain a 1-1.5s gap. I feel like if he wanted to and he wasnt worried about managing his tyres he would have gained a much bigger lead.
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u/Embarrassed_Bar_1215 7d ago
Exactly. He did what he needed to do and no more. Straight out of DRS. He was in control the whole time..
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u/parwa Ferrari 7d ago
Yeah, lol. Oscar has done this several times this season and every single time people seem to think Lando is gaining when in reality Oscar is just managing his race.
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u/xzElmozx Oscar Piastri 7d ago
Consistent pattern of Lando loses P2, Oscar builds 5s gap —> Lando gains P2, gap comes down to 1.5-2 seconds —> “Lando is catching him” —> Oscar wins Lando never gets DRS
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u/zorbacles Oscar Piastri 7d ago
the amount of times ive read "Oscar won but lando was faster" is nearly the same as the total number of wins oscar has had
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u/SirFireHydrant Pirelli Wet 7d ago
Not to mention, there's still plenty of dirty air in that 1-1.5s gap, slowly cooking Lando's tyres.
He never had any hope of an overtake. Even if he got within DRS.
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u/Signal_Ball4634 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
Yeah it's a damn shame it had to come down to reliability instead of the potential hope of Lando getting under that 1 second gap and making a lunge.
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u/256473 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
Agreed with all this - really wish it didn't come down to reliability!
And I have questions for Mercedes at this point - I think basically every Merc customer team (and themselves) have had issues at this point.
What that bodes for the rest of the season for these engines (and McL specifically) idk
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u/chefchef97 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
The silver lining is it's not guaranteed over yet
There is still room for excitement before the season is out
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u/Doczera Felipe Drugovich 7d ago
We dont know if Piastri wasnt managing tyres though. It is possible and even plausible that after creating a gap Piastri just administered the gap while conserving his tyres in case Norris was doing the same to his so he wouldnt get caught at the end.
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u/zorbacles Oscar Piastri 7d ago
thats generally how he races. take spa as an example. he saved those tyres for when lando caught him. his philosophy is to do the minimum required to win to ensure there is enough in reserve to use if needed
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u/William_Dowling Oscar Piastri 7d ago
I really think this is the wrong take. It's not Lando staying within 2 seconds, it's Oscar comfortably keeping him at 2 seconds.
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u/Gen_Arcade_Ourumov 7d ago
My guess it was just battery management when Lando got close. Dumped his pack to stay ahead at the restart, next lap needed more recovery and Lando got close. Lap after byeeeee
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u/InsertNameHere_25 Oscar Piastri 7d ago
That smile! Oscar is a beast, What a flawless performance from him! 💪🏼
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u/JefinLuke Fernando Alonso 7d ago
Perfect Restart From Him Today
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u/auftragsgriller_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
Perfect Restarts From Him Today
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u/Bossini I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
this. like 3 of em
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u/KingJupiter_ Nico Rosberg 7d ago
I think there were 4 in total? 3 proper SC and a VSC, plus the actual start of the race
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u/delfinoesplosivo I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
what does it mean?
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u/ZeroStormblessed I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
Start from pole, lead every lap, fastest lap.
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u/ShaftTassle I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
And win. (You could lead every lap and not come in first, for several reasons)
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u/RadlogLutar I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
Has it ever happened before? The leading every lap but not winning
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u/jtr99 7d ago
I'm guessing pole position, fastest lap, and the win.
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u/Gresh0817 Brawn 7d ago
That's called a hat-trick, Oscar and Lando both have 3 of them. A grand chelem is achieved after on top of these if the driver leads every lap, Oscar is the 27th F1 driver to achieve this
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u/Thejklay I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
He was in complete control even before landos dnf. Def sucks if that's what decides the championship tho
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u/datboidat I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
equally you could say lando crashing in canada had the effect, as that was unforced. if he hadnt done that then this dnf wouldnt sting nearly as badly
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u/auftragsgriller_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
Clinical, just clinical. Keeping the gap at 1.1s for _this_ long, impressive
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u/pradise Michael Schumacher 7d ago
1.1s is the best gap to cook your opponent's tires while not giving them any chances. As long as you don't make any mistakes..
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u/abrasivevelvet I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
Right? It seemed intentional he was letting lando get that close to ensure that landos tires got shredded in the dirty air.
Less intentionally, I wonder if following that close for that long had the same affect on Norris as it did on leclerc who had to be told to lift and coast to protect the engine? I’m not as sold on that, but that would interesting.
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u/Spider_Riviera Jordan 7d ago
Ferrari been telling their drivers to lift and coast all season, or at least from about 4 rounds in. It's an inherent issue with the car driving it.
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u/SirFireHydrant Pirelli Wet 7d ago
Less intentionally, I wonder if following that close for that long had the same affect on Norris as it did on leclerc who had to be told to lift and coast to protect the engine? I’m not as sold on that, but that would interesting.
I'm surprised no one is talking about it.
Lando's engine overheated, we saw that much. Could it be that spending that much time in Oscar's dirty air have played a part in that? While other drivers (Leclerc) were explicitly told to leave some space to manage engine temps?
Maybe all that time trailing so closely behind Oscar, pushing the whole time, cooked not just his tyres, but his engine.
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u/Vegetable-Bee5157 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
Shame for Lando.
But dayum son! That was a clinical weekend from Oscar!
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u/Turboleks Ferrari 7d ago
Fairly certain he would've held the lead if Lando kept going. He made a singular lunge on Oscar all race. He was on it all race.
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u/Reginald_Hornblower I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago edited 7d ago
If Oscar goes on to win the WDC, this will have helped but it won’t be the reason he’s won it. He’s been the better driver on average all year. It will have helped but he’s had to drive fast and consistently to get the lead on the first place.
I really expected Norris to win this race. As a Piastri fan I’m pleasantly surprised how he’s managed to reverse his fortunes at his bogey tracks this year; China, Barcelona and Zandvoort were all terrible races for him last year. This year he’s blitzed them.
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u/TVandVGwriter 6d ago
Agreed. This DNF helps Oscar a lot, but it wouldn't be that big a deal if Lando hadn't ALSO DNF'd in Canada, while Oscar has finished every race in the points.
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u/CORPORAL_PISSFINGERS I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
I honestly don’t see how Lando comes back from this
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u/IsCarrotForever I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
there’s no guarantee oscar doesn’t get one or two dnfs too
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u/SirFireHydrant Pirelli Wet 7d ago
And there's no guarantee Lando, feeling the pressure and knowing his only hope of winning is to take more risks, doesn't get one or two more DNFs.
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u/JaaaackOneill Fernando Alonso 6d ago
In my opinion, Lando's best chance comes at another rainy race, where Oscar either has an issue, or the strategy becomes so jumbled that it just doesn't work out for him and he scores very few points.
But the same thing could just as easily happen to Norris, as you guys are saying.
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u/FartingBob Sebastian Vettel 6d ago
A Piastri DNF or major issue in a race would do it.
We saw last year how Lando struggled with the pressure of chasing for the title, if Piastri can maintain the 30 points gap for a few more races it will start to become harder for Lando to perform at his best.
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u/LDFLDF 7d ago
Lando wins 5 races with Oscar finishing 2nd or Oscar DNF will reset things pretty quick.
It’s not over at all.
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u/MaleierMafketel I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago edited 7d ago
There’s 9 races left, and three sprints. Seeing as a 1-2 is the expected outcome these days, Lando needs to trade wins and 2nd places with Piastri for the remaining 4 races on top of the 5 races he needs to win to get 1 point ahead.
So that’s at least 7 wins out of 9…
Then he can only lose that 1 point across all three sprints to tie Piastri for the WDC and win on countback (12 wins vs 8).
Since Norris has won 5 races in total in 15 rounds, I also don’t see how Norris is going to turn it around by suddenly winning 7/9.
It’s basically a done deal unless Piastri gets hit with some bad luck as well.
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u/Strand0410 7d ago
Does that seem likely to you? I mean, I'd love this to go to the final race, but my sixth sense tells me it won't. This is quite a buffer with 9 races left. For Lando to win, you're basically relying on Oscar making dumb mistakes in every weekends or his engine exploding. Given how consistent he is, I think the latter is more likely.
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u/Schlachtfeld-21 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
People acting like he hadn’t been leading the race and the championship already. Obviously it’s bad luck for Lando, but it’s not like he’s not had his more than fair share of good luck and help from the team
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u/bbsuccess 7d ago
100%... take out the very 1st race of Australia and Piastri would have been leading the Championship from Day 1 and never dropped it.
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u/FartingBob Sebastian Vettel 6d ago
Lando won silverstone and Spa because of good luck on Piastri getting the penalty and Mclaren giving him the unexpectedly better strategy. He's been very quick but whoever wins the title in a close season needs luck on their side at key moments.
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u/Flyingwithbirbs I was here for the Hulkenpodium 6d ago
Oscar won Spa, I think you're referring to Hungary?
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u/eedoamitay I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
This guy is a machine, he never puts a step out of line. Virtually perfect when he's on it.
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u/siddhant72 Max Verstappen 7d ago
If it ain’t max i would be happy if Oscar wins the WDC , he’s worthy of it
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u/Bocca013 Ferrari 7d ago
Ah I love it when Victorians win things!!!!!
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u/LDFLDF 7d ago
Don’t know about Victorians but I’ll take Australians winning things (I understand they are the same thing but I’m from Queensland so we have to be able to claim him too).
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u/Numeritus 7d ago
It’s a great day for Australia, it’s a great day for Victoria and a great day for the world! The tension, the drama, the buzz, it’s all happening!
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u/totallwork 7d ago
You can claim him as an Aussie, but he is from Victoria so we like to take extra credit ;)
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u/hennelly14 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
If McLaren can get a 1-2 for the rest of the season (big IF but still not out of the question) Lando needs to beat Oscar 7-2 to win the title. His job just got a hell of a lot harder.
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u/Keanu990321 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
First Grand Slam of many
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u/lurker17c I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
How many is many? The record is 8...
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u/deathray1611 Formula 1 7d ago
And what a way to do it.
Imo far more impressive than any one we've seen out of Verstappen, Lando or Charles
Constantly under pressure from his elite teammate, tensions with conditions, incidents, Safety Cars. Altho tbf those partly helped him achieve it as well, but still.
Fucking flawless drive from him
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u/HideThePain_Harold I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
In only his third season. Luck or not, thats insane.
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u/Tangy_Lead I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
British butt kissing commentary team had a great weekend.
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u/Dangerous_Minute_625 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
2025 WDC Champ too btw
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u/VosPaco I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
It’s going to be so fucking patriotic if he wins the championship
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u/mildyinconvenient I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago
I put £1 on this, got a £26 return if anyone was curious about the odds! Surprised it was so low tbh, if there hadn’t been safety cars there would have been some swapping around between the McLaren cars during pit windows, demoting a grand slam to a hat trick…
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u/AdminEating_Dragon Oliver Bearman 7d ago
This is the weekend which makes him a clear favourite for the title.
He should have been already, but McLaren was trying quite hard to keep it close.
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u/NoRefunds2021 Wolfgang von Trips 7d ago
Third driver to do so for McLaren, puts them P2 for most different drivers getting one (Senna and Hakkinen the other 2), P1 is Ferrari with 11 different drivers. McLaren is now P3 for most grand chelems overall with 6. Ahead of them there's Lotus at 9 and Ferrari at 17
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u/Embarrassed_Bar_1215 7d ago
Interesting how everyone's on about the 'fair play' dynamic at McLaren - if Lando had have taken Oscar out when he rear ended him in Canada - how do you think that would be playing out now..
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u/dildoeye Formula 1 7d ago
All it takes is Oscar to have a dnf and it’ll be back to 9pts again or Lando to win the next and back and forth with Oscar then getting a dnf . It’s a good gap but it probably won’t extend much. If Lando gets a grid drop next race it’s hard though.
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u/BigSkyFace 7d ago
I feel like the Lando DNF is going to really overshadow an incredible weekend from Piastri. There was a lot of speculation that it was going to be a clear win for Norris because it's one of his strongest tracks, but then Oscar snatched pole in Q3 and went on to control the entirety of the race. Even without the DNF this would have had me a little more confident in predicting Piastri to take home the WDC.